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NFL Suspends Williams One Game For Horse-Collar Tackle

Cowboys safety Roy Williams has been suspended one game without pay for Sunday’s illegal horse-collar tackle on Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb. Williams will be sidelined for Saturday’s game at Carolina.

 

NFL Director of Football Operations Gene Washington issued the suspension.

 

Sunday’s game marked the fourth violation of the horse-collar rule in the past two seasons.

 

More to come.

Comments

 

ThreeSportStar said:

He deserved it. what a bonehead play!

December 17, 2007 6:55 PM
 

Lifesanrpg said:

that's b/s...just goes to show you that the nfl is against the Cowboys.  

while i agree it's a bonehead play, there's no reason to suspend him.  fine him. but to suspend him for a tackle that is a flag?  that's ridiculous.  start suspending people for every helmet to helmet hit or other flagged plays.

December 17, 2007 6:56 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Agreed.  He deserved to be suspended for it.  He's a better player than that.  He doesn't need to take players down like that.  He's a big hitter, he needs to take advantage of that and quit tackling people like that before he hurts someone even worse than he did to T.O.  

December 17, 2007 6:58 PM
 

jeffreydavisjr said:

unbelievable

December 17, 2007 6:58 PM
 

Holyteror said:

I've seen SEVERAL questionable plays in the NFL for stuff like this.  I'd like to see them start suspending other players too.  What a crock...

December 17, 2007 6:59 PM
 

ccol74 said:

This was the 4th time he has done that this year. If he didnt get the hint before he need to be suspended so he finally stops tackling like that

December 17, 2007 6:59 PM
 

Cerebrum said:

I would say Cool we get to see what Watkins can do, but he sprained ankle so Crap.

December 17, 2007 7:01 PM
 

rocket88 said:

Maybe this will be a good thing. He might stop doing that if they are going to start taking his game checks. We can't keep getting those 15 yard flags.

December 17, 2007 7:01 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

He had it coming.  After being fined so many times, you'd think he'd get a clue and quit doing it.  Maybe now he'll learn to hit people the way he did when he came into the league

December 17, 2007 7:02 PM
 

wecasa said:

There's no excuse for Roy.  I hadn't realized he'd been popped 4 other times for the same infraction.  Take you week off and don't drag it out with an appeal.  You'll only become a distraction to the team.  Come back against the Deadskins and let 'em have it like they were the ones who suspended you.

December 17, 2007 7:04 PM
 

joko1425 said:

I just don't see why it's so hard not to horsecollar tackle someone.  I mean, go for the legs or jersey, or wrap someone up.  Roy used to be one of my favorite cowboys but I don't know lately.

December 17, 2007 7:05 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

Why is it that QB's are treated like fine China these days?  What are linemen supposed to do when they get ready to take out a QB?  Call a caterer and throw a party?

The NFL needs to stop the sensitivity training and remember football is a CONTACT sport!

I never condone a player being hurt intentionally but that horse collar was probably the mildest one in a very long time...give the guy a break...if anyone deserved missing a game it was Hamlin...

December 17, 2007 7:05 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

That was beyond stupid...I'm done with Roy.  Every once in a while he makes a great play but more often that not he's standing there looking goofy after a completion is made right where he should have been.

December 17, 2007 7:07 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Gotta disagree Demboyz.  Would you still call it mild if he would have broken McNabb's leg.... or worse?  He's gonna seriously hurt somebody with that crap if he continues to do it.  He already broke T.O.'s leg when he was an Eagle.  I'm surprised he hasn't hurt anyone else doing it.  

December 17, 2007 7:08 PM
 

Ruffnek said:

Roy Williams has become a definite liability to this team. He hurts them with his play and now he definitely can't help them against Carolina since he went and got himself suspended. Evidently the guy has never learned correct tackling technique. He reminds me of Brian Bosworth, another Sooner who was handicapped by poor technique in the NFL.

If I were Jerry Jones, I would cut the guy at seasons end and eat the cap money. I think Watkins will eventually take his job anyway, especially if Hamlin gets a long term deal.

December 17, 2007 7:08 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

I'm with you DemBoyz - I think we should just start playing flag football the way the game's gotten...ask Willie Joe N. about hanging tough!  And the no celebration thing is too much - I miss all the fun dances in the end zone, etc!!

December 17, 2007 7:11 PM
 

bamafan 55 said:

Roy could have made that tackle without using the horse collar. Roy is starting to lose a lot of the respect he earned in his 1st 2 years with Woody covering for him.If the league decides to suspend Hamlin too,we will be left to start Keith Davis and Courtney Brown at safety with no back-ups to help. Roy Williams may be a college graduate but he is not a very smart player. He has been a liability for a few years now.

December 17, 2007 7:13 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

DC my point is this:

A) McNagg was not hurt

B) Matt Schobel was...

But yet Williams is suspended and Hamlin is not.  So then people will say it is the repeat incidents that justify the punishment but I doubt Schobel feels the same when he sees little birdies flying circles around his head and McNagg does another press conference about race issues in the NFL-oh wait-Williams is black.  I am sure he will  find something else to nagg about.

My position remains:  stop with the myopic vision and if you punish one punish all stop "making examples" and let the game be played!

December 17, 2007 7:16 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Exactly, loco - the way it's going I could probably suit up...

December 17, 2007 7:16 PM
 

surfan said:

Good riddance. Long time R.W. supporter, I've had it with his inability to cover the pass, eg., just like yesterday against the (rookie) tight end who got a first on a third and forever. Troy Polamalu he ain't. Let's see what we do without him. Can't do much worse, I think...

December 17, 2007 7:17 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Maybe they should let the players play, but I think some of you would look at it differently if somebody horse collared Tony Romo or Marion Barber or T.O. and got any of them hurt.

December 17, 2007 7:18 PM
 

tiger88 said:

Simple.  NFL wants more offense because that is more exciting than defense struggle for most fans.  Have you seen five wide receiver offense 20 years ago?  Now, quite a few teams are doing that!  You have to protect the QB if you want more offense.  Bill Walsh was the first one to go more passing.  New England took to extreme this year.  Sometimes, they rarely ran the ball even they had commanding lead late in the game.  But, of course, you need good QBs to run the greatest show on turf.  So NFL wants to protect the QBs.

Williams has to learn how to make tackles without pulling the collar.  He is not a good tackler.

December 17, 2007 7:18 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

DC, that's different - they're Cowboys...just kidding.  Roy is not going to change how he plays and he's too old to learn to tackle differently.  he needs to go (I never liked the Sooner grad anyway).

December 17, 2007 7:21 PM
 

epboyfan said:

Roy knows about the horsecoller rule. It was implemented because of him. Eventhough I don't agree with the suspension he should know better. If he had been warned before and he still kept doing it shame on him, especially knowing that the nfl and the refs are always out to get us.

December 17, 2007 7:22 PM
 

Tru2silverblue said:

I can't believe that it has earned a suspension. The Chicago player whose name escapes me, gets popped for a marijuana offense yesterday. He gets to play tonight because the coach wants more information as to the charges, but Roy gets suspended for a tackling technique that some of us don't think should be illegal to begin with. Helmet to helmet hits? Sure, outlaw them because they could get someone killed. Horse collar tackles...it IS a contact sport, right? Roy should try and back off though since it is currently illegal, for the teams sake if nothing else. But a suspension for a tackle compared to getting to play after a pot charge...doesn't seem fair to me.

December 17, 2007 7:22 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

And for the records McNagg was NOT HURT!  Maybe his ego was but that is it.  

And to answer a question posed how would I feel if it was a Dallas player who got horse collared?  The same way I felt when Aikman got all his concussions...this is the nature of the game, suck it up and move on...they signed up for a CONTACT sport not a tea party.

December 17, 2007 7:23 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

TD, I'm with you on that one.  Roy is not the same player he was early in his career.  However now that the game has evolved to the point where he has to cover people, it's obvious that he is not capable of covering anybody and he doesn't do much against the run anymore either.  I say put him up for trade and see what we can get for him.  Hate to say it because I've been a Roy Williams fan since he was drafted, but it might be time to move on.

December 17, 2007 7:23 PM
 

ccol74 said:

After the third time he was flagged for the horse collar the NFL sent him a letter warning him not to do it again. The suspension is totally warranted.

December 17, 2007 7:24 PM
 

JesseJames83 said:

y'know..Roy is the ONLY player to ever get called on it..No bod else does and they can hore coller all freaking day

December 17, 2007 7:27 PM
 

Roywilliams101 said:

that is the biggest bull *** i have ever seen, some guy on denver got two horse collars in one game, does he get suspended? no, then some guy in the washington game does it and he doesnt get suspended, that pisses me off so much

December 17, 2007 7:28 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Don't agree that others should get away with it but when a penalty was invented because of you, you probably shouldn't keep doin it...they're waiting for you!

December 17, 2007 7:30 PM
 

Roywilliams101 said:

the guy who suspended him was probably a carolina fan so since roy is a dominant force he decided to suspend him, because he likes men

December 17, 2007 7:32 PM
 

FiveBlings said:

I wonder...

What happens if the secondary has their best game of the season against Carolina?

What will that tell this coaching staff about Roy and his impact on the team when he takes bad angles on the ball or when he has no clue how to defend an athletic tight end on a square in route?

What happens if the corners tighten up their coverages knowing their safety help is where it needs to be?

What if we get 4 INT's in the game?

I wonder...

December 17, 2007 7:33 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

You stole the words right out of my mouth TD.  Can't control who the league fines or doesn't fine.  But when the rule is made because of you, that should tell you right there that they're gonna be watching you through a magnifying glass.  He brought it on himself.  Right or wrong, it happened.  Quite honestly, I don't think we're gonna miss him all that much on Saturday anyway.  

December 17, 2007 7:33 PM
 

em888 said:

Some of you guys are crazy. All around, Williams is DEFINITELY still an asset. Do you guys realize he LEADS the team with SIXTY FIVE solo tackles? The next closest player is Bradie James, but with TEN less, and he happens to be a linebacker. And yes, I'm well aware Roy has definitely had his share of bad plays show up on the highlight reel this season.. But without him, most of those 65 solo tackles and 83 total tackles DON'T HAPPEN. Our other safeties have 38 solo tackles and 30 solo tackles (Hamlin and Watkins.)  Thats a HUGE difference.

So maybe Watkins would give up 1 or 2 less TD completions, but I guarantee you he doesn't get NEAR 65 solo tackles. So he would just end up giving the other team more first downs and possibly touchdowns, just in a different way.  Theres no way Pat Watkins or any other Dallas safety not named Williams would end up with 65 solo tackles at the end of an entire SEASON, let alone at this point.

And most importantly, the rest of the league thinks differently from you guys. Roy has been sent to 4 straight probowls and he is about to make it a fifth.

Now some of you might say the probowl is just a popularity contest, but I don't buy that for a second. Maybe for one year, but remember, 2/3 of the probowl vote is made up of COACHES AND PLAYERS. FANS only count for 1/3 the probowl vote.

So no matter how many fan votes you get, in order for someone to make the trip FOUR STRAIGHT YEARS you have to have HUNDREDS of opposing players and coaches voting for you to go to the probowl.

So, bottom line, the people who have actually game-planned against Williams over his entire career would beg to differ with many of you guys and your opinions.

December 17, 2007 7:37 PM
 

TN Cowboy Blue said:

He knows they are watching him for that horse collar. Why does he keep doing it? But if the NFL is going to call this for a flag, it needs to be consistent. That is what makes me mad.

December 17, 2007 7:38 PM
 

Since78 said:

LOL...all those solo tackles occur because he let the receiver catch the ball.  Kinda the inverse of why Newman doesn't get too many picks.

December 17, 2007 7:38 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

I totally agree he was a bone head for not going out of his way NOT to horse collar anyone but the way the league decides who gets punished and who doesn't is so one-dimensional it is a joke.

December 17, 2007 7:39 PM
 

bamafan 55 said:

DemBoyz.....A college education hasn't made Roy a smart player at all. The rule was made because of Roy. He should use his intelligence a little better. The play didn't change yesterday's game,but it certainly may change Sat's game.

December 17, 2007 7:42 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

OMG, Em we didn't mean to commit blasphemy and Roy has definitely contributed to the Boys success, but unfortunately  it seems like his misses and mistakes are more apparent these days than the stats you put out there, especially with the suspension.

December 17, 2007 7:42 PM
 

DM1906 said:

For all of you fans out there that don't agree with the suspension or think it's too harsh, or that Williams was singled out, just remember, this rule was created becasue of him and his tactics on defense.  Remember Williams broke Terrell Owens leg with this same tackle during T.O.'s last year in Philly.  I would hate to see someone lose a career like this.  McNabb was lucky.  Tackles like this have no place in an already violent sport!  The hit by Hamlin was a lot more violent so don't be surprised if we see a hefty fine levied against him.  

I just hope we're lucky enough next year to find another free safety.  Williams has been a liability all year and now this!  We can't go on like this and I'm sure change is on the horizon.  

December 17, 2007 7:43 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

78 - that's it!  Em, how many interceptions does he have??

December 17, 2007 7:44 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

Bama "A college education hasn't made Roy a smart player at all"-says a FAN who probably has no experience as an NFL player...

I think the stats, ProBowl and career-wise, are facts that make your opinion look just that: AN OPINION.

December 17, 2007 7:45 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

The fact is that Roy Williams was a beast in the 4-3 Defense Bill Parcells ran when he was a rookie.  Once the Defense changed to the 3-4 and he had to drop back into coverage, his lack of coverage skills stuck out like a sore thumb and it didn't take the rest of the league to figure out he could be beaten... bad.  He's still a hell of a player, but he isn't cut out for this style of defense and it shows every time he desperately tries to chase down someone who blew right by him.

December 17, 2007 7:46 PM
 

epboyfan said:

Roy, just like Julius Jones was good when he first came into the league. but now I really don't know what to think of either one. Their play has gone south and we all know it.

December 17, 2007 7:46 PM
 

FiveBlings said:

Can't he just get his weight up to 240 and play LB like Urlacher did?

December 17, 2007 7:47 PM
 

chaser44us said:

I have been a huge RW fan since he came to the Cowboys . If you have a rule made because of what you are doing ...GET A CLUE  if you've been repeatedly penalized and warned for it ...GET A CLUE . It seems to me that the punishments doled out by this new commish are custom made and a lot of times  are more strict for some than others . But just because someone got caught with pot is no excuse for Roy continually playing in a way that is in total disregard for the rule that was made for him and the people warning him to quit doing so . I think that the suspension is fair considering the repeated penalties and the warning he has recieved .

 The play by Hamlin should have probably been a penalty although on the replay he turned his body and leaned in with  his shoulder and the head collision looked to me to just be a whiplash effect of the momentum of both players . I just don't think he intentionally led with his head. Maybe it still should have been a penaty . Maybe not , but RW got what he deserved in my book . Some people just don't get the message right off and need something more drastic to get their attention .

JMO

December 17, 2007 7:47 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

In simple Economics:  Roy as a liability is much less than him as an asset.

CHECK THE STATS!

December 17, 2007 7:48 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Roy leads the team in tackles because everybody and their mother throws his way knowing he can't cover his own @$$, much less a WR.

December 17, 2007 7:50 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Chaser I totally agree with your take on the Hamlin collision - he definitely turned his shoulder and the impact knocked their helmets together.  RW does not fit in the current Wade defense.  Times have changed and he can't change with them...

December 17, 2007 7:52 PM
 

DeLeon_ROH said:

This is what everyone wanted! The sad part is that it came at a time when another safety is hurt and now your down two safeties for saturday's game!

December 17, 2007 7:56 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

ok, so he led the team with 5 picks last year...what have you done for me lately??

December 17, 2007 7:56 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Five picks is no doubt a great accomplishment and I know that a few of those came at crucial times in the game where we needed a turnover.  Like I said, he's a hell of a player but even though you can count five INTs, I bet you can't count how many times he got burned... not even on two hands.

December 17, 2007 7:59 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Speakin of Urlacher, just recovered a fumble on MNFB...

December 17, 2007 8:01 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

It is so sad how easily people are willing to throw a DC player under the bus...we go from arguing suspension and it's reasonableness to arguing to get rid of him.  He is one of 4 safeties in club history to make it to 4 or more Pro-Bowls.  He has 82+ straight starts which is the longest active streak on the team.  He has led the team in interceptions in 02 and 06 and he is one interception for a touchdown away from breaking the four record held by Coakley and Thurman.

I wonder if some of you are the same people who clapped when Emmitt Smith was sent to Arizona...you should be ashamed of yourselves for your lack of loyalty!

Yes he should not have been so blatant in his disregard to being told not to horse collar but that is no reason to call a veteran who has done much for the team a liability....let's see you strap on some pads and do a better job than he has in his 6 years in blue.

December 17, 2007 8:02 PM
 

dem_boys_audi said:

What is everyone talking about!  This is the NFL, not flag football.  The "horse collar tackle" rule is a bunch of crap!  The only reason it became a rule is because of the NFL's attempt to protect QB's and WR's in the hopes of increasing points scored and therefore $$$$.  This is the age of the "PASS", defenses don't stand a chance.  

December 17, 2007 8:04 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Nobody's questioning him as a player.  He is a Pro Bowl player.  But sometimes the shoe just doesn't fit, no matter how nice that shoe is.  He needs to be in a 4-3 scheme where he can be close to the line of scrimmage and lay the wood on people and bust some heads.  He CANNOT cover ANYBODY.  That's just the way it goes.  He's a 4-3 guy in a 3-4 scheme.

December 17, 2007 8:05 PM
 

NY Cowboys Fan said:

He does deserve it.I don't know what is wrong with Roy Williams the last few weeks,because he has looked bad.Maybe we'll cover better Saturday night.

December 17, 2007 8:05 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Hey!  Do not question my loyalty - I miss the triplets every day and think it was horrible that Emmett did not finish his career in a CB uniform.  It's like family...I can talk bad about em but don't you dare!  Ok, ok so Roy can stay!  

December 17, 2007 8:07 PM
 

cowboystopfan said:

I have to admit that I was big Roy Williams fan when he came into the NFL. I have been hoping that he was just in a rut. Now I believe that it is time to part ways with Roy Williams because if anything, his situation has gotten worse.

December 17, 2007 8:11 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Questioning people's loyalty to the team because of one player is ridiculous.  It's not about staying loyal to the team.  It's about doing whatever it takes to help your team win. Some players just don't fit.  So you get rid of some and sign others.  Was it loyal of the Cowboys to get rid of Drew Bledsoe and hand the reigns to Romo?  Was it a  bad thing to let go of Keyshawn Johnson to sign T.O?   You bring in players who can help you win and you let go of the ones who can't.  I'm not saying they are going to get rid of him, but it's something that they are going to eventually question.

December 17, 2007 8:13 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

TD all I am saying is that it is a family and no one should be bad mouthing him on anything except for making a dumb mistake.  Trade talk and all that other crap is for Gaint and Deadskins fans...for good or ill he is a Cowboy and he deserves, at the very least, our respect for what he has contributed to the team.

And yes the scheme changed but maybe some blame for his inability to cover rests on the defensive coaches for not spending enough time teaching him how to tackle in the new scheme.  To question his intelligence is an absolute insult!  We all do dumb i$ht...that is the nature of being human.  Some people on here obviously missed that part of their sensitivity training opting to pay more attention to the horse collar segment of the instruction.

December 17, 2007 8:14 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

"And yes the scheme changed but maybe some blame for his inability to cover rests on the defensive coaches for not spending enough time teaching him how to tackle in the new scheme."

He's a professional getting paid millions of dollars to do his job.  At this level, if he hasn't already "learned how to tackle", he's never going to learn.

December 17, 2007 8:16 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

DC you make a great argument BUT (with the exception of Bledsoe) I would be saying the same about treating them with respect.  As to questioning loyalty...it goes with the concept of why have enemies when you have friends.  IMO the way people treat the veterans who are just getting old and are not as valuable as they once were is the equivalent of putting your mother in a nursing home and forgetting about her.  It is like saying thanks for all you have done but now that I don't need you I will forget all you have done to help me get where I am-it is not right.

December 17, 2007 8:19 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

yes, but it's also a business (whether we like it or not) and when there is a change in leadership and strategy, sometimes there have to be personnel changes. Doesn't mean they aren't good, they just may not be cut out for the new structure.  The coaches have to make those tough calls but as a fan, I want W's!!  Believe me, I've been with the Boys through good times and bad (1-15 Troy's  first year - yikes!)...

December 17, 2007 8:20 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

DC and I bet you say the same for all the players who get false start penalties...a huge percentage in the NFL BTW...I guess all of them should be thrown under the bus too because they get paid millions of dollars and should know when the ball is snapped-right?  Demboyzrbad is rolling her eyes...

December 17, 2007 8:21 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

TD I am not arguing anyone's right to want him traded or released in the off-season (it is a business-I won't deny that) so much as I am questioning those who make comments about his intelligence or those who ignore the career he has had.  To say he has done nothing for the boys except be a liability is a str8 insult that is totally unneccesary.

December 17, 2007 8:25 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Demboyz, if that were true, Flozell would be road kill!!  LOL

December 17, 2007 8:25 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Getting the snap count right is a matter of concentration and discipline.  Proper tackling form is a fundamental you learn in Junior High.  Not in the pros.

December 17, 2007 8:26 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Demboyz, I think you're confusing me with someone else who called Roy a liability.  I never once said he was a liability and I never said he hasn't had a good career.  He's still a young player and he's still one of the hardest hitting Safeties to play the game.  But the bottom line is that, at his position, he is consistently getting beat and it's becoming more apparent that the big plays he gives up are outnumbering the big plays he makes.

December 17, 2007 8:29 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

TD very true...but I don't see anyone posting about his lack of intelligence...thank you for helping me prove my point!  LOL

December 17, 2007 8:30 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

There's definitely no need to be insulting, but I agree with DC.  He just doesn't seem to have a natural affinity for the 3-4.  I just heard on MNFB that they are appealing the suspension...

December 17, 2007 8:32 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

DC so you are saying that getting the snap count right is not a fundamental?  I think you took what I said about another poster personal...as you can see in one of my posts-I clearly called out who I was referring to.  You may not have done those things but others have and they are who I am posting my comments to...  

December 17, 2007 8:37 PM
 

USBoysFanInCn said:

I like Roy Williams........and I dont agree with all the negativity that the Cowboy fans have been talking this year. Certainly he has some weakness's, but in my mind his strengths far out-weigh his weakness's........I have said it before and I will say it again, he can play on my team anyday. However, certainly one of his issues, is his horse collar tackling. There are many times he uses this technique and he doesnt get called for the foul. It is his instinct, but he must change it, as this suspension proves. My only fear is that it is so embedded in his style for so many years and maybe one of the reasons he has in the past been such a good tackler, is his use of this technique and without it he becomes less effective?? Either way....he must change as his continued use of this technique, is now hurting the team!!!! My opinion is that it will happen again!!!!

December 17, 2007 8:37 PM
 

T with said:

It is justified... but there are alot of other things from other teams that I have seen this season (philip Rivers going down several times with shots on his knees againt Tenesee) that should be suspended as well. I have to also agree with alot of peoples posts on here about Roy starting not to look like a great play maker anymore, and becoming a liability to this team. He needs this suspension and maybe, just maybe, he will not cost us in the playoff run.

December 17, 2007 8:38 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

There are plenty of reasons why we might not make the SB but blaming Roy Williams' affinity for the horse collar for us not making it is the equivalent to blaming Jessica Simpson for Romo's crappy night...

He is not the same as he once was-I would never disagree with that conclusion but...that does not justify the insults being thrown his way-that is my only point.

December 17, 2007 8:42 PM
 

TD4theBoys said:

Cn, ur right - he can't help himself!  Everytime I see him do it (and he hasn't been called every time) it is very controlled and methodical, not like an incidental facemask or something...  I don't know what the coaches can do to make him STOP!  Maybe a shock collar...

December 17, 2007 8:42 PM
 

demboyzrbad said:

LMAO at shock collar!  Hey it may work...if this suspension doesn't...y not give it a try?

December 17, 2007 8:44 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

Demboyz, I'm saying that there are many things that factor into false start penalties or jumping offsides.  The opposing line might flinch, crowd noise can be a factor.  As you said earlier, it is a very common penalty.  But not knowing how to tackle is just ridiculous.  I've said it before and I'll say it again.   I'm a huge Roy Williams fan, but as good as he has been for the Cowboys, it just doesn't seem like he fits anymore.  I hope he turns it around and starts to tackle the way he did early in his career.  And I hope he can get some help back there in the secondary because he needs it.  I don't want to see him go, and for all we know, he might stay a Cowboy for many many years.  But when he can't do the job, somebody is gonna come in who can.

December 17, 2007 8:48 PM
 

gscuda66 said:

GOOD...........maybe the boys will get a saftey that can play the passing coverage. I did like hamlins hit........my teeth still hurts from that hit.

December 17, 2007 8:49 PM
 

DCBoys4Life said:

I agree.  And I mean no disrespect.  I know what Roy Williams has done for the Cowboys and he's one of my all time favorites to wear the silver and blue.  I really truly hope he learns from this suspension and starts playing the way he is capable of playing.  And I hope even more that he takes his frustrations out on the deadskins next week!

December 17, 2007 8:53 PM
 

The Emperor said:

I'm afraid this is the end of Roy Williams' stay here in Dallas.

December 17, 2007 11:12 PM
 

alessia said:

Ciao The Emperor,

In your opinion, what do you think about Roy William’s first actions as a Carolina?

December 18, 2007 6:56 AM
 

mgonza said:

I had to jump into this before going to work.

If you are defending Roy Jones by thinking that he did not deserve a suspension, note that this is the FOURTH time he has done this.  Again, if you watch the replay,

he did not need to horse collar.  He could have gone for a wrapping the player up.

If Roy does not stop horse collaring, he could seriously do damage to someone.

It was a stupid move. He did it. And he has done it and been fined before.  Sorry,

but this one is on him.

Later!

December 18, 2007 7:06 AM
 

cowboy1983 said:

I definitely agree with the suspension, Roy is too good of a player to have his imaged marred with a reputation for being a "dirty player".  Hopefully this suspension "opens his eyes" and he puts an end to the horse collaring tactic before someone gets seriously injured.  

December 18, 2007 8:04 AM
 

alessia said:

Milan, Italy

I'm in agreement with you.

The America's team don't like ugly.

December 18, 2007 8:57 AM
 

ironrattler said:

Why don't we just stop tackling altogather, then we could change NFL to NFFL(National Flag Football League). How many of you people ever played any real football? Goodall and company are a bunch of pantywaist business men and are only interested in business and being politically correct. Nausiating, I'd rather watch H.S. football, at least you will see people with heart for the game before it is "washed" out of them.

December 18, 2007 9:38 AM
 

MICowboys said:

Ok I have to say something here.  Everyone here who played football especially defense what was your only objective??? Get the ball carrier on the ground NO MATTER WHAT, period, the only thing you didnt do was grab the face mask. Other then that it was fair game. I hear a lot of you talking about the horsecollar tackle SERIOUSLY injuring someone, what is a serious injury to you? The only thing I have ever seen it do is break a leg, which is just as easy and jsut as common on a helmet to leg hit or shoulder to leg hit, oh both of which are NOT ILLEGAL.  

I am tired of the league trying to turn a hard hitting great game into what it has become today.  This horsecollar rule is BS.  Those of you talking about proper technique etc, if you ever played the game you know sometimes you take the wrong angle for whatever reason, sometimes you are just flat out trying to catch someone from behind, again you get the player down however you have to.

Someon here already said it we soon will be watching the NFFL (National Flag Footbal League) Sad Sad Sad.  

December 18, 2007 11:20 AM
 

nwaboysfan said:

Emp, in your defense

alessia said:

Ciao The Emperor,

In your opinion, what do you think about Roy William’s first actions as a Carolina?

December 18, 2007 6:56 AM

alessia,

What are you talking about?  Williams was drafted out of Soonerville(Oklahoma) as a rookie he's never played for Carolina.  If your insinuating that he is going to Carolina then don't hold your breath... "mr Jones" will be the one trading him and I bet it will be to the AFC.

December 18, 2007 1:02 PM
 

mikeynice said:

STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!

Roy Williams has been an inconsistent player for the past three seasons.  Yes, he can hit like a dumptruck bringing a heavy load, but I have also seen him wiff on hits against runningbacks in goal line situations, most notably against the Giants and Lions this year.  Hits that would have stopped the runnng back and prevented scores had he made the hits on target.  It is almost as if he has been playing hurt.

He has started missing gap assignments allowing those long runs in short yardage situations.  He has also lost his confidence completely in the passing game, allowing guys like Cooley and Shockey to hurt the defense all the way down the filed.  I may be wrong, but when a tight end is open down the middle, as in the 3rd and 9 conversion on Sunday that clinched the game for the Eagles, Williams is out of position AGAIN.

Now he has been suspended for repeated violations of the "Roy Williams Rule."  As inconsistent as he has been playing, not havng him there hurts.  The penalty again shows his lack of playing confidence.  There is no need for the play.

He needs to elevate his total game for the paly-offs, play with confidence, and stop hurting the team.      

December 18, 2007 1:27 PM
 

TorontoFanGreg said:

Don't know if anyone else noticed but the line on this game was Cowboys by 12.5 and after the Williams suspension it went to 13.  Coincidence?  It doesn't matter whether you agree with the rule or not, it is a rule and he keeps breaking it knowing full well what the consequences are.  That is irresponsible.  Did you see his reaction to the flags.  He looked incredulous - if so , then I question his intelligence.  I am not usually down on this guy, although he has been a bit of a disappointment this year, but he has to play smarter.

December 18, 2007 3:05 PM
 

BigDeMatteo said:

What a dumbass. I bet TO cringed after that play.

December 18, 2007 4:16 PM
 

Cherokee said:

I don't think one game is stiff enough penalty for a player who has been warned repeatedly, fined, etc.  Does the man not comprehend anything?

Why should a player's career be in jeopardy because one player does not seem to care if he hurts someone or not, he just wants to get the player to the ground?

Well, we have all heard what goes around comes around.

December 18, 2007 6:38 PM
 

BigRob07 said:

WTF. Roy + Horse- Collar Tackle = Dumbass Play! He needs to go to HCT  Rehab.

December 18, 2007 7:03 PM
 

George said:

Give Roy a chance, This is "tackle football".  You got to make tackle on players who are over 6 feet tall and over 200 lbs. I would like to see one of you to make tackle on someone that big and running full speed from behind.

December 18, 2007 8:09 PM
 

Romo to Witten said:

good im glad they finally did something to him how stupid can you be that penalty is what it is cause of him and he keeps doing it what a crack head

December 19, 2007 12:23 PM
 

ran0706 said:

I think that R. Williams should not have been suspendend. It is tackle football and how else would you bring down a guy quicker than that.  Its not very easy to tackle some one from behind so give the guy a break.  He is a Pro football player he knows what he is doin and that wimp McNab was not gonna get hurt, Roy was underneath him the whole time while he was being brought to the ground. LET R. WILLIAMS PLAY!!!!!!!

December 19, 2007 6:28 PM
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