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Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

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  • 04-23-2008 10:48 AM

    Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    Two first-round picks provide flexibility in the draft, and perhaps even outside of it. Cowboys owner and general Jerry Jones wasn't specific, but confirmed his team has inquired about trading for a veteran wide receiver.

    The three names mentioned most prominently around the league are Cincinnati's Chad Johnson, Arizona's Anquan Boldin and Detroit's Roy Williams. Jones said the Cowboys haven't inquired about Johnson, however, and both Arizona and Detroit have dismissed the idea of trading their respective star receivers.

    If a team is interested, should the Cowboys trade pick(s) for a veteran wideout?

  • 04-23-2008 11:05 AM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    Since you aren't a fan of reading the numerous threads on the subject, the simple answer is = yes. 

  • 04-23-2008 11:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    If the price is right?!!! It's not looking good considering other teams have interest and are upping the ante! I just don't see it happening!! I'd rather trade for a young CB if the Pacman deal doean't go through! 

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  • 04-23-2008 12:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    lets be completely blunt if you dont think jones is going to trade for vertean WR your head is to far up your a** and start pushing jones will get a WR in a trade most likely roye williams from the lions.....i dont know who but 1 thing is certain it will happen, and dont be fouled pacman will be a cowboy titans will crack and give him up for cheaper the longer they wait......theyre trying to play a game the eagles played with TO jones knows hes going to be released by the titans so its either trade and get something or just let him go and than jones will just sign him

  • 04-23-2008 1:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    I realize there are other threads...this thread is for driving traffic thru our home page.

  • 04-23-2008 1:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    rphillips:
    I realize there are other threads...this thread is for driving traffic thru our home page.

    I know, I just like giving you a hard time Mr.Phillips!  No hard feelings Stick out tongue
  • 04-23-2008 2:06 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

     

     

    If we can get permission from their teams to talk about the money. I do not think Chad Johnson is a good fit. Maybe he sees the team not keeping their stars and raising cane to be traded but I do think it is about money and I don't think we have enough for him. Maybe Williams of Brolin (sp??) 

  • 04-23-2008 3:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    Ok Rob, how about this curve-ball:

    The Carolina Panthers are pretty much in transition from the core team that went to the SB years ago.  They need OL help, a RB, and a QB wouldn't hurt.  John Fox is a tough guy and he loves tough players... enter MBIII.  With the news that a long-term contract is far from being reached with the Cowboys, Jerry decides to make the "wow" move we've all been waiting for!

    Jerry offers Carolina MBIII, the #22 pick and the #28 selection in the draft.  In exchange, the Boys get Steve Smith, the #15 pick and the Panthers 2nd round (#45) selection.

    Carolina is happy b/c they get a probowl/proven young RB (which they were more than likely going to draft for that position with their 1st pick), and 2 1st round selections where they can get some higher quality talent (perhaps an OT at #22 or possibly Desean Jackson there if they wanted to replace Smith, and at #28 they could go after the QB they want for the future of their franchise).

    Dallas is happy b/c they get the perfect WR compliment to TO, they can use the #15 pick to select Mendenhall or Stewart, and they get an earlier 2nd round selection to grab a CB (to hopefully go along with the Pacman acquisition), and can utilize their later 2nd round pick on another RB, SS, NT, an OL, or just the best available.

    I would really love this move and would even be ok with Jerry throwing in another player (Miles Austin, Anthony Fasano, etc.) to make it happen! 

     

  • 04-23-2008 3:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    BoutteMan:

    Ok Rob, how about this curve-ball:

    The Carolina Panthers are pretty much in transition from the core team that went to the SB years ago.  They need OL help, a RB, and a QB wouldn't hurt.  John Fox is a tough guy and he loves tough players... enter MBIII.  With the news that a long-term contract is far from being reached with the Cowboys, Jerry decides to make the "wow" move we've all been waiting for!

    Jerry offers Carolina MBIII, the #22 pick and the #28 selection in the draft.  In exchange, the Boys get Steve Smith, the #15 pick and the Panthers 2nd round (#45) selection.

    Carolina is happy b/c they get a probowl/proven young RB (which they were more than likely going to draft for that position with their 1st pick), and 2 1st round selections where they can get some higher quality talent (perhaps an OT at #22 or possibly Desean Jackson there if they wanted to replace Smith, and at #28 they could go after the QB they want for the future of their franchise).

    Dallas is happy b/c they get the perfect WR compliment to TO, they can use the #15 pick to select Mendenhall or Stewart, and they get an earlier 2nd round selection to grab a CB (to hopefully go along with the Pacman acquisition), and can utilize their later 2nd round pick on another RB, SS, NT, an OL, or just the best available.

    I would really love this move and would even be ok with Jerry throwing in another player (Miles Austin, Anthony Fasano, etc.) to make it happen! 

     

    The Panthers would laugh at us.

    Boogie aka St Bubba
  • 04-23-2008 4:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    TO will be a free agent come 2009.  With the lack of WR depth in this draft, trading picks for a veteran who can complement and, in the future, replace TO is in our best interests.   

  • 04-23-2008 4:26 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    Boogie:
    BoutteMan:
    Ok Rob, how about this curve-ball:

    The Carolina Panthers are pretty much in transition from the core team that went to the SB years ago.  They need OL help, a RB, and a QB wouldn't hurt.  John Fox is a tough guy and he loves tough players... enter MBIII.  With the news that a long-term contract is far from being reached with the Cowboys, Jerry decides to make the "wow" move we've all been waiting for!

    Jerry offers Carolina MBIII, the #22 pick and the #28 selection in the draft.  In exchange, the Boys get Steve Smith, the #15 pick and the Panthers 2nd round (#45) selection.

    Carolina is happy b/c they get a probowl/proven young RB (which they were more than likely going to draft for that position with their 1st pick), and 2 1st round selections where they can get some higher quality talent (perhaps an OT at #22 or possibly Desean Jackson there if they wanted to replace Smith, and at #28 they could go after the QB they want for the future of their franchise).

    Dallas is happy b/c they get the perfect WR compliment to TO, they can use the #15 pick to select Mendenhall or Stewart, and they get an earlier 2nd round selection to grab a CB (to hopefully go along with the Pacman acquisition), and can utilize their later 2nd round pick on another RB, SS, NT, an OL, or just the best available.

    I would really love this move and would even be ok with Jerry throwing in another player (Miles Austin, Anthony Fasano, etc.) to make it happen!

    The Panthers would laugh at us.

    Really?!  You think Steve Smith is worth more than two 1st rounders b/c that's basically what the deal encompasses?  Instead of the tender that existed on MBIII for a 1st and a 3rd, Dallas does a sign-and-trade to Carolina which basically results in the Boys getting their 1st round pick (#15).  Dallas gives-up #22 and #28 for Steve Smith, and gets Carolina's 2nd rounder to make it a little more even (based on the Draft Value chart).  But Jerry could even adjust it to where instead of getting the Panthers 2nd round selection outright maybe we just flip-flop 2nd rounders...

    Dallas gets #15(1050) + #45(450) = 1500          Carolina gets #22(780) + #28(660) = 1440  or  [1440 + #61(300) = 1740] ~ Panthers would benefit by 240 points!

    Or like I mentioned above, maybe there is someone else on our roster that would be able to fill a position of need for Carolina; can you name the Panthers starting TE???  Well, maybe with this scenario it would be Anthony Fasano!

  • 04-23-2008 4:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    BoutteMan:

    Boogie:
    BoutteMan:
    Ok Rob, how about this curve-ball:

    The Carolina Panthers are pretty much in transition from the core team that went to the SB years ago.  They need OL help, a RB, and a QB wouldn't hurt.  John Fox is a tough guy and he loves tough players... enter MBIII.  With the news that a long-term contract is far from being reached with the Cowboys, Jerry decides to make the "wow" move we've all been waiting for!

    Jerry offers Carolina MBIII, the #22 pick and the #28 selection in the draft.  In exchange, the Boys get Steve Smith, the #15 pick and the Panthers 2nd round (#45) selection.

    Carolina is happy b/c they get a probowl/proven young RB (which they were more than likely going to draft for that position with their 1st pick), and 2 1st round selections where they can get some higher quality talent (perhaps an OT at #22 or possibly Desean Jackson there if they wanted to replace Smith, and at #28 they could go after the QB they want for the future of their franchise).

    Dallas is happy b/c they get the perfect WR compliment to TO, they can use the #15 pick to select Mendenhall or Stewart, and they get an earlier 2nd round selection to grab a CB (to hopefully go along with the Pacman acquisition), and can utilize their later 2nd round pick on another RB, SS, NT, an OL, or just the best available.

    I would really love this move and would even be ok with Jerry throwing in another player (Miles Austin, Anthony Fasano, etc.) to make it happen!

    The Panthers would laugh at us.

    Really?!  You think Steve Smith is worth more than two 1st rounders b/c that's basically what the deal encompasses?  Instead of the tender that existed on MBIII for a 1st and a 3rd, Dallas does a sign-and-trade to Carolina which basically results in the Boys getting their 1st round pick (#15).  Dallas gives-up #22 and #28 for Steve Smith, and gets Carolina's 2nd rounder to make it a little more even (based on the Draft Value chart).  But Jerry could even adjust it to where instead of getting the Panthers 2nd round selection outright maybe we just flip-flop 2nd rounders...

    Dallas gets #15(1050) + #45(450) = 1500          Carolina gets #22(780) + #28(660) = 1440  or  [1440 + #61(300) = 1740] ~ Panthers would benefit by 240 points!

    Or like I mentioned above, maybe there is someone else on our roster that would be able to fill a position of need for Carolina; can you name the Panthers starting TE???  Well, maybe with this scenario it would be Anthony Fasano!

    The only reason I think they wouldn't is because Steve Smith is their face of the franchise.  The points do add up, but Smith's face sells tickets.  Maybe Marion would as well, I just don't know

    Boogie aka St Bubba
  • 04-23-2008 5:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    BoutteMan:

    Ok Rob, how about this curve-ball:

    The Carolina Panthers are pretty much in transition from the core team that went to the SB years ago.  They need OL help, a RB, and a QB wouldn't hurt.  John Fox is a tough guy and he loves tough players... enter MBIII.  With the news that a long-term contract is far from being reached with the Cowboys, Jerry decides to make the "wow" move we've all been waiting for!

    Jerry offers Carolina MBIII, the #22 pick and the #28 selection in the draft.  In exchange, the Boys get Steve Smith, the #15 pick and the Panthers 2nd round (#45) selection.

    Carolina is happy b/c they get a probowl/proven young RB (which they were more than likely going to draft for that position with their 1st pick), and 2 1st round selections where they can get some higher quality talent (perhaps an OT at #22 or possibly Desean Jackson there if they wanted to replace Smith, and at #28 they could go after the QB they want for the future of their franchise).

    Dallas is happy b/c they get the perfect WR compliment to TO, they can use the #15 pick to select Mendenhall or Stewart, and they get an earlier 2nd round selection to grab a CB (to hopefully go along with the Pacman acquisition), and can utilize their later 2nd round pick on another RB, SS, NT, an OL, or just the best available.

    I would really love this move and would even be ok with Jerry throwing in another player (Miles Austin, Anthony Fasano, etc.) to make it happen! 

     

    steve smith>marion         15>22                        28>45

    based on that they are giving up two better resources and getting one better in return. no way is hell that would ever happen

  • 04-23-2008 5:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    cowboynation:
    steve smith>marion         15>22                        28>45

    based on that they are giving up two better resources and getting one better in return. no way is hell that would ever happen

    But like I said in my last response, what if they only flip-flopped 2nd rounders (meaning Carolina would get 3 picks from Dallas)?  Or if Anthony Fasano was thrown into the mix b/c they don't have a TE, or even someone like Spears on the DL since Mike Ruckers just retired...
  • 04-23-2008 8:00 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    I'm back and forth on this.  I can't decide if we should try and develop our young recieving corps with Austin, Hurd, and Stanback or if we should go all in and trade our picks for someone like Boldin.  I really don't want to see anything happen with Williams or Johnson, because (despite how amazing he has been for our team) we have enough ego with TO.  Adding a player like "The Chad" would not be good for team morale.   Before the Panthers came and swooped him up, D.J. Hackett was on my mind.  We get someone like him, then I'm in.

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