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Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

Last post 05-22-2008 7:24 PM by 1974Fan4ever. 223 replies.
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  • 04-29-2008 5:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Should the Cowboys attempt to trade for a veteran wide receiver?

    to cowboynation and sonny,

     

    notice I said may get cut. Not even suggesting he will. But I know a couple of things. With the below list being the WRs on the roster pre draft. They will probably not cut Crayton, Glenn, Hurd, Owens or Stanback. That by my math leaves 1 active roster spot at best. If they have Pacman, Felix Jones, and draftee X returning kicks, that only leaves Austin, AKA Sonny, and Jefferson on the outs. Not sure the investment in Jefferson, but just citing facts. I personally like Austin and would argue to keep him on the team only if he could block as good as he returned kicks.. Later..

     

    Miles Austin
    Patrick Crayton
    Terry Glenn
    Sam Hurd
    Mike Jefferson
    Terrell Owens
    Isaiah Stanback

    Fan since 72
  • 04-29-2008 5:43 PM In reply to

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    I forgot about the great blocks on kick returns he gave to spring thompson HAHa
  • 04-29-2008 7:31 PM In reply to

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    Maskedpumpkin:

    to cowboynation and sonny,

     

    notice I said may get cut. Not even suggesting he will. But I know a couple of things. With the below list being the WRs on the roster pre draft. They will probably not cut Crayton, Glenn, Hurd, Owens or Stanback. That by my math leaves 1 active roster spot at best. If they have Pacman, Felix Jones, and draftee X returning kicks, that only leaves Austin, AKA Sonny, and Jefferson on the outs. Not sure the investment in Jefferson, but just citing facts. I personally like Austin and would argue to keep him on the team only if he could block as good as he returned kicks.. Later..

     

    Miles Austin
    Patrick Crayton
    Terry Glenn
    Sam Hurd
    Mike Jefferson
    Terrell Owens
    Isaiah Stanback

    im jp dude. i like to come on here and stir up a little excitement with sonny ever once in a while

  • 04-29-2008 7:43 PM In reply to

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    no sweat man.. keep it up... we will cross paths again... Take it you want the spurs to win huh! lived in SA for while, but have to say that Football is my ONLY sport...

    Fan since 72
  • 04-29-2008 9:43 PM In reply to

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    Maskedpumpkin:

    no sweat man.. keep it up... we will cross paths again... Take it you want the spurs to win huh! lived in SA for while, but have to say that Football is my ONLY sport...

    i used to be only a bball fan but i switched i started to watch football a while back and now im a diehard cowboy fan. kinda wierd how i only like texas teams but w/e, ill prolly move there someday to get away from the giants.  yea we prolly will cross swords when it gets closer to the season, thats when i really get fired up. now im kinda bored and get look forward to a whole summer of no football, so i come on here and cause a little trouble.

  • 04-29-2008 10:06 PM In reply to

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    well pardon moi for not reading this whole thread, however i did feel that i must chime in. I would like to see a vet WR join the team. with that said this vet must be of the talent of a Chad, Roy, Bolduin (sp), and we MUST NOT MORTGAGE THE FARM.!!!! should one fall to us ala Tank then i say go for it. I do think our deep squad of young-uns can fill the need though. i have all the faith in the world that Austin and Hurd have met their 2 yr break-in (and maybe even Stanback) period and will come out swinging if the opportunity arises. Problem is with TO,Glenn, and Crayton healthy they won't see many reps. damn i'm glad we have that problem. because now this year you throw in the tandem of MB and FJ with some trick screens/slants to Jones, and you couple that with a deadly combo of Witten and Bennett and sneak in a Cricket with an occaisional "some like it hot" Curtis....well you get my drift. Our problem this year will be deciding where to go with the ball, and offensive game plan. (DON"T BECOME OBVIOUS GARRETT OR YOU WILL SUFFER AS BP DID)

    Damn fine problems to have IMHO

    did i tell you i'm excited about this years draft and our potential for next year.

     

  • 04-29-2008 10:46 PM In reply to

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    If the right opportunity presents itself I'm sure the Cowboys will be all over it. However, it has to be a tremendous upgrade from the talent we already have at receiver. I know Jerry would like to get T.O. some more help, but the receivers we would be interested in are not available as of this moment. Maybe the Bengals or Lions change their minds down the road, but until that happens I think Jerry is just as happy rolling with what he has. You always want to explore the possibilities of getting better, but it has to be the right situation. Jerry is smart enough now not to make moves that will hurt the organization. I am praying very hard for Chad Johnson or Roy Williams to be able to come on board. If it doesn't happen we still have an excellent team. On the other hand, if it happens some way somehow I don't think I'll be able to control myself.

  • 04-30-2008 10:16 AM In reply to

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    I'm not quite sure why we need another veteran receiver.  We have Owens and Glenn. T.O. is still one of the best in the league and Glenn has apparently had a good offseason.  We just signed Crayton to a nice contract since he had a solid season last year.

     But here's the deal. Although I was happy with our draft overall, I was not pleased with the fact that we failed to get any receivers. None. We needed someone young and promising, but we failed to do it.  Glenn will not be around much longer, Crayton is not a great #2, and Hurd is unproven. We needed a receiver, we could have taken Levell Hawkins and we didn't, could have taken Manningham, despite his baggage, and didn't.

    In that respect I was dissapointed with our draft strategy. A veteran wide receiver is the last thing we need IMO, esspecially someone like Ocho Cinco. How the hell is that going to work, with him and T.O. both calling for the ball on every play.

  • 04-30-2008 10:35 AM In reply to

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    MDRedneck:

    I'm not quite sure why we need another veteran receiver.  We have Owens and Glenn. T.O. is still one of the best in the league and Glenn has apparently had a good offseason.  We just signed Crayton to a nice contract since he had a solid season last year.

     But here's the deal. Although I was happy with our draft overall, I was not pleased with the fact that we failed to get any receivers. None. We needed someone young and promising, but we failed to do it.  Glenn will not be around much longer, Crayton is not a great #2, and Hurd is unproven. We needed a receiver, we could have taken Levell Hawkins and we didn't, could have taken Manningham, despite his baggage, and didn't.

    In that respect I was dissapointed with our draft strategy. A veteran wide receiver is the last thing we need IMO, esspecially someone like Ocho Cinco. How the hell is that going to work, with him and T.O. both calling for the ball on every play.

    I think that were not going able to count Glenn to start or finish this season.There's our legimate # 2...Crayton is next in line and i'm not sure if i trust him after watching the last game...To the respects of a counterpart to Owens...he's now mature enough to realize that he has to share to win a championship!And to say we cant have a really good or great receiver compilmenting Owens is saying to me that we have to have inferior talent over on that side of the ball...WHY?We should have grabbed Lime Sweed in the 2nd.He will turn out turn be a miss...for us that is!
    THE MAN OF THE HOUR......see any similarities???
  • 04-30-2008 2:34 PM In reply to

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    jcowboy:
    I think that were not going able to count Glenn to start or finish this season.There's our legimate # 2...Crayton is next in line and i'm not sure if i trust him after watching the last game...To the respects of a counterpart to Owens...he's now mature enough to realize that he has to share to win a championship!And to say we cant have a really good or great receiver compilmenting Owens is saying to me that we have to have inferior talent over on that side of the ball...WHY?We should have grabbed Lime Sweed in the 2nd.He will turn out turn be a miss...for us that is!

     

    Howdy jcowboy..

    I agree with you to a point. However I would not project Sweed in place of Crayton or Hurd from day one of the season. If, following that line of logic, there is no one in the draft that can get on the field and supplant either one of the those players (i.e. a frist round grade), then I would say passing on drafting a WR and loading up for next year's draft is the right approach. I like Sweed and two other WRs in the draft (Nelson and Caldwell) but am not sure any of them would be able to play a significant role day 1 on the field. There is a WR problem, and I do not think that Glenn will be back either. I think that Dallas expects as vet WR to be cut and they being able to sign them to the roster. The one thing I look at when they are adding all these new players is who will be cut? There are only 2 WRs that are likely to be cut, and Dallas still needs a solid Fullback if Anderson goes down and a backup center.

    just my view..

    Fan since 72
  • 04-30-2008 5:44 PM In reply to

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    Signing a veteran WR? Hmmmmmm???????

     No to Chad Johnson. This guy cares more about rehearsing his pre-game TD performances than doing what is right for the betterment of his team. And we would want to give (2) 1st round picks for a WR in his 30s?  Yes, it would take that much to land CJ. Would take the same for WR Roy Williams and A Boldin. Fans have to learn that the NFL is a copy cat league. What teams are the current successful ones? Arguably, the Patriots and Colts. How did they did their "dynsaty"? Through the draft.

    Look at the examples out there:

    Giants had a super draft in 2007 and that catipult them to a SuperBowl win. The Colts entire starting team, both offense and defense, are through the draft. Patriots built their Team of the '00 through the draft. Contrary, the Redskins continually try to build their franchise their the draft. Least amount of drafts picks from 2000. And they are salary cap strapped and has produced nothing. What built the Cowboys dynasty in the 90s? The Draft ! And it is the draft that is turning the COwboys are again.

    If you are going to build through the draft, you need smart, knowledge scouts. This is where the Cowboys suffered after their dynasty years. So Jerry tried to plug the weaking dam with high cost free agents and we got three seasons of 5-11.

    Build through the draft and sprinkle free agents through your franchise, but don't give away draft picks. WRs will be cut after June 1st because of salary cap issues and WRs will be cut to get to the 53 man roster. Would have been nice to get a WR in the draft but it didn't happen nor was their a worthy WR to get in the 1st round. I am glad the team addressed their major needs: CB #1 and RB #2.

  • 04-30-2008 5:49 PM In reply to

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    The Cowboys are in between a rock and a hard place. There is nobody that is worth trading for a quality veteran wide receiver to the Cowboys unless Jerry can reach a retarded owner and get them to take a stupid trade that would benefit Dallas. If Dallas gave up anyone currently on the team, that would only cause depth problems. Imagine what Dallas would have to give up in order to get a receiver like Roy Williams from the Lions? Giving up our Roy Williams is not good enough because he is terrible. So Jerry would have to give up multiple players (i.e. Herschel Walker-Vikings) just to get someone of that talent level. I say the only way to get someone of that talent level is to give up high draft picks next year along with a couple of players this year. I think that is too many players to give up. Unless, like I said, Jerry can contact a stupid owner that would take less.

  • 04-30-2008 6:59 PM In reply to

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    Although I agree on not giving anything up for a veteran receiver, I don't agree with your report card on Chad Johnson. The NFL was fun in 85 when the Bears entire team would dance the Super Bowl shuffle after a touchdown or a win 14 games before they actually won the Super Bowl. The NFL has gotten into everyone's head by saying that celebration is bad sportmanship. The actual category is Sports and ENTERTAINMENT. The Entertainment part has been taken out because of what? Some DB or QB got his feelings hurt because a touchdown was scored because of his mistake and the the player that scored wanted to show joy and entertain the fans? Come on man. If Chad Johnson were to play for the Cowboys, you and the rest of us (Cowboys) fans would be cheering just as loud if not louder everytime he scores and does some kind of celebration. Because that means the COWBOYS scored a touchdown. I don't hate any player that wants to score touchdowns. hint hint, that does help the team by the way. The point of the game is to score more points than the other team.

  • 04-30-2008 7:17 PM In reply to

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    CoreyG:

    Although I agree on not giving anything up for a veteran receiver, I don't agree with your report card on Chad Johnson. The NFL was fun in 85 when the Bears entire team would dance the Super Bowl shuffle after a touchdown or a win 14 games before they actually won the Super Bowl. The NFL has gotten into everyone's head by saying that celebration is bad sportmanship. The actual category is Sports and ENTERTAINMENT. The Entertainment part has been taken out because of what? Some DB or QB got his feelings hurt because a touchdown was scored because of his mistake and the the player that scored wanted to show joy and entertain the fans? Come on man. If Chad Johnson were to play for the Cowboys, you and the rest of us (Cowboys) fans would be cheering just as loud if not louder everytime he scores and does some kind of celebration. Because that means the COWBOYS scored a touchdown. I don't hate any player that wants to score touchdowns. hint hint, that does help the team by the way. The point of the game is to score more points than the other team.

    I see your point, but I think its more like players making a big celebration, verging on Taunting, in their opponents homefield.  Kind of like the T.O. thing in Dallas several years back.   There isnt enough security at the games to hold back a riot of fans converging on the field.   Kind of like the soccer riots that go on every season.


    Pat McQuistan --Com'ere Im gonna eat ya!

  • 04-30-2008 8:13 PM In reply to

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    Football fans aren't as retarded as soccer fans. We might throw a couple of cups or snowballs, but we aren't going to ruin the game so that it has to be cancelled after paying so much money for tickets.lol.

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