How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
Last post 07-14-2008 8:55 AM by clarmr. 197 replies.
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Weapon_X



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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
He did play near the line more and rushed the quarterback but he had 0 sacks, I even saw him get stonewalled a few times by smaller runningbacks. NFL players usually have "it", whatever it is. Roy doesn't have it anymore and unless he gets it back he won't be a Cowboy in 2009.
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
its all in his head, focus is key. it doesnt seem like he is preparing properly. Lack of confidence probably doesnt help either. I think Dave Campo is going to help him, but i firmly believe its up to ROY to take the necessary steps to play the way we've known him to play in the past. Im not ready to throw him under the bus. Yes, he pisses me off at times, but he's a cowboy.
COWBOYS FANS: Lets not throw our players under the bus, that is being just like our HATED Gmen,Philly, Wash fans....they boo their players....lets support the guys that don the Star. Jerry is a great owner and i think he has us in the right direction.
MY prediction: Wade will be fired regardless of what happens this yr. I think Garrett will be HC opening the new stadium.
Even if we won the SB, i think Wade is gone....(JJ did it to Jimmy, he'll definitely do it to Wade)
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
I disagree, as long as we win at least one play-off game and play well in one more Wade is safe but if we lose our first play-off game or somehow miss the play-offs Wade is gone for sure.
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
gmo415:
denveraic:
I am not really a fan of Spagnola. Let's just say I think he is an idiot.
Was that necessary?
I am sure it was... he deserves every bit of it! Just wish I had said it first... I think I have before though.
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
Weapon_X:I disagree, as long as we win at least one play-off game and play well in one more Wade is safe but if we lose our first play-off game or somehow miss the play-offs Wade is gone for sure.
I partially agree. I think it all depends on how well we play in December. Jones said after we beat green bay that he was happy but apprehensive about December since we had such a poor history. If I'm Wade, I read between the lines on that one. His boss has served notice. Phillips better coach better in the last 4 games and I think if this team doesn't make the NFC Champ game, he's gone and Garrett gets his shot. I think the most revealing thing about him and this team is prior to the Redskin game at the end of the season, he said he wanted to win that game since it's the Redskins, a divsion team (that we could eliminate) and would give us some momentum going into the bye week. You saw how they responded. If I'm him, I'm concerned about a team that not only doesn't have my back but plays that poorly in a game I have deemed important.
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
IMO, this topic is irrelevant. I haven't changed my mind from last year. We will go as far as this O will take us. We didn't advance in the playoffs because we only scored 17 points, 11 below our season average. Games 1-13, we averaged 32.5, games 14-17, we averaged 12.25. The real season starts after Thanksgiving. And Phillips defense of himself with his regular season record will be as irrelevant as Williams is to the O.
The road to the Superbowl is full of potholes, speed traps and road rage.
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The latest news has the Eagles trading Sheppard to the lions for the real Roy Williams. If that happens, I would put them right in the favorites role right along side us and the Giants. I asked earlier if any NFC teams had improved better than we did in the off season, FA and draft. They get him, that would be my answer.
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
CouchCoach:IMO, this topic is irrelevant. I haven't changed my mind from last year. We will go as far as this O will take us. We didn't advance in the playoffs because we only scored 17 points, 11 below our season average. Games 1-13, we averaged 32.5, games 14-17, we averaged 12.25. The real season starts after Thanksgiving. And Phillips defense of himself with his regular season record will be as irrelevant as Williams is to the O. I agree...we really shot ourselves in the foot when it comes to offense....if we would've scored the same as we did in the beginning of the season we would have lost soo much....not to mention lost to the G-Men
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
CouchCoach:The latest news has the Eagles trading Sheppard to the lions for the real Roy Williams. If that happens, I would put them right in the favorites role right along side us and the Giants. I asked earlier if any NFC teams had improved better than we did in the off season, FA and draft. They get him, that would be my answer. Either way...we shouldn't (on paper) have any issues with these teams....but they are NFC East teams and we do have the strongest division in football
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PrimeTime00: Roy need to regain his confidence.....once he does that he'll be fine...
Prime, how does a player who openly admitted he fears the QB throwing his way, get his confidence back? He has never been a cover safety to begin with and now is even less than that. Every ex-player analyst last year called him out as the weak link on the D, now he has called himself out and if I was a D teammate of his, I would be having some conversations with my position coach and Stewart. This is new ground for any team when a player openly admits he fears the offense and I don't think we've heard the last of it. I have heard several of the ex-players, that I respect, register shock that a professional athlete would even approach something like this. It's not going away. The other thing Campo has to deal with are the comments he made about the highly paid (although less than him) CBs ON OUR TEAM not doing their jobs. Prime, I've been following this game a long time and I've never seen or heard anything like this in any sport.
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PrimeTime00: CouchCoach:IMO, this topic is irrelevant. I haven't changed my mind from last year. We will go as far as this O will take us. We didn't advance in the playoffs because we only scored 17 points, 11 below our season average. Games 1-13, we averaged 32.5, games 14-17, we averaged 12.25. The real season starts after Thanksgiving. And Phillips defense of himself with his regular season record will be as irrelevant as Williams is to the O.
I agree...we really shot ourselves in the foot when it comes to offense....if we would've scored the same as we did in the beginning of the season we would have lost soo much....not to mention lost to the G-Men
I believe we would have our 6th ring. If anybody has any reservations just how important TO is to the offense and Romo, they can put them to rest. He is our MVP and the league's too, IMO. Just look at the difference in our team with a healthy TO and without him, that pretty well defines a MVP to me. Which gives a lot of validity to you posters concerned about the WR position. But, if TO goes down again, it won't matter who we've got in there. IMO, there are only three players that DCs have to change their prep for, Moss, Peterson and TO.
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
CouchCoach: PrimeTime00: Roy need to regain his confidence.....once he does that he'll be fine...
Prime, how does a player who openly admitted he fears the QB throwing his way, get his confidence back? He has never been a cover safety to begin with and now is even less than that. Every ex-player analyst last year called him out as the weak link on the D, now he has called himself out and if I was a D teammate of his, I would be having some conversations with my position coach and Stewart. This is new ground for any team when a player openly admits he fears the offense and I don't think we've heard the last of it. I have heard several of the ex-players, that I respect, register shock that a professional athlete would even approach something like this. It's not going away. The other thing Campo has to deal with are the comments he made about the highly paid (although less than him) CBs ON OUR TEAM not doing their jobs. Prime, I've been following this game a long time and I've never seen or heard anything like this in any sport. I agree....cuz its not just Roy failing to do their job....Roy is playing on the team who's offense was ranked number 2 in the nfl last season....he needs to be trained...match him up against Witten and teach him wut to do and wut not to do....If he get better at that then wut TE can't he cover? I can teach roy how to be a better cover guy....there are ppl on our team that can cover....y aren't they spending a lil more time with him....i think Roy's biggest prob is he's quick to bite...which as a cover guy is a huge risk....
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Re: How can the Cowboys make Roy Williams more effective on defense?
CouchCoach: PrimeTime00: CouchCoach:IMO, this topic is irrelevant. I haven't changed my mind from last year. We will go as far as this O will take us. We didn't advance in the playoffs because we only scored 17 points, 11 below our season average. Games 1-13, we averaged 32.5, games 14-17, we averaged 12.25. The real season starts after Thanksgiving. And Phillips defense of himself with his regular season record will be as irrelevant as Williams is to the O.
I agree...we really shot ourselves in the foot when it comes to offense....if we would've scored the same as we did in the beginning of the season we would have lost soo much....not to mention lost to the G-Men
I believe we would have our 6th ring. If anybody has any reservations just how important TO is to the offense and Romo, they can put them to rest. He is our MVP and the league's too, IMO. Just look at the difference in our team with a healthy TO and without him, that pretty well defines a MVP to me. Which gives a lot of validity to you posters concerned about the WR position. But, if TO goes down again, it won't matter who we've got in there. IMO, there are only three players that DCs have to change their prep for, Moss, Peterson and TO. I agree....and thats why having a good number 2(Glenn) back there cuz if we can relieve some of the pressure from him he will help reduce his chances of getting hurt...
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