CouchCoach:

Off this topic. I hope while Barber is working out in FL he's working on his QB protection. The last game film any team has on him exposes his weakness and it will be exploited until he improves on it. We've got some bidness to take care of with Barber, Canty and Hamlin and sign our picks and we're a little tight in the cap department. And with Newman, TO and Columbo up next year, we could be facing bidding a fond farewell to some starters because every one of these players are in high dollar positions. Here's your assignment. Rank the first group in order of importance to keep and then the second. You only have 10 seconds to complete the assignment. Please time yourself as we are on the honor system.

Trade them for Bledsoe or cut them all Man that was easy

Triple L Ranch:

CouchCoach:

daddylvsdallas:

I'm sorry but wasn't the whole point of bringing in Hamlin to help on coverage? and move Roy closer to the line? The first part worked great, Hamlin was even better than I had hoped, but what happened to using Roy almost as an extra linabacker? just imagine the Roy in Campo's old system and Demarcus now. Good luck stopping our playmakers, but as much as I love Wade that never happened. And to the guy that suggested Watkins could take over. YOUR JOKING RIGHT? I wouldn't let him start on my nephew's little league team. Much better you move Henry to free and Hamkin to strong instead of that.

Excellent point. I thought that was the main reason we brought Hamlin in unless there was a different plan and doubts were starting to surface about Williams and his work ethic. Which is what we're all talkling about ..weight, conditioning, study, recognition..it's all about work ethic and I think he's always gotten by without it in the past and now has been found out. I think Henry's strength is on the line up against the big WRs and not back in open coverage against speed receivers. If we've got hope since we didn't draft another Safety, I believe it's Courtney Brown. I have heard good things about his ball skills and maybe he can make the jump this year. While he is an unknown, what we know about Williams isn't making anyone comfortable including the coaching staff and owner.

I don't know what to think of Roy's play over the last year, and certainly don't know what to expect from him this upcoming season.  I do, however, know that your statement - "While he is an unknown, what we know about Williams isn't making anyone comfortable including the coaching staff and owner."  is completely wrong!  Check this out.  It contradicts your statement and comes directly from the owner.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=E9B27236-A032-81F6-6C8E419340C85FCF

Trip, I saw that when it came out. What would you expect him to say when asked about it? That he's worried Roy's play has denigrated, he's blaming other players in the secondary, being called in for a coaches meeting, blaming the fans and openly admitted he fears being thrown on? Have you ever heard Jones say anything negative about one of his players? Even when one is convicted of double manslaughter? I'll stand by that statement. Jerry Jones and the coaching staff are very concerned about him. If this had happened prior to the draft, we'd have picked a Safety. As usual, just my opinion but I believe with the door still open to the SB, Jerry is plenty worried about Roy Williams and his performance, or lack thereof.

Triple L Ranch:

CouchCoach:

Off this topic. I hope while Barber is working out in FL he's working on his QB protection. The last game film any team has on him exposes his weakness and it will be exploited until he improves on it. We've got some bidness to take care of with Barber, Canty and Hamlin and sign our picks and we're a little tight in the cap department. And with Newman, TO and Columbo up next year, we could be facing bidding a fond farewell to some starters because every one of these players are in high dollar positions. Here's your assignment. Rank the first group in order of importance to keep and then the second. You only have 10 seconds to complete the assignment. Please time yourself as we are on the honor system.

Nice gear shift couch, but you done it in the wrong thread

Trip, trip, trip, now you know I've never stayed within the confines of the topic. Hey, welcome back, haven't heard from you in a while.

gp_cowpolk:

CouchCoach:

Off this topic. I hope while Barber is working out in FL he's working on his QB protection. The last game film any team has on him exposes his weakness and it will be exploited until he improves on it. We've got some bidness to take care of with Barber, Canty and Hamlin and sign our picks and we're a little tight in the cap department. And with Newman, TO and Columbo up next year, we could be facing bidding a fond farewell to some starters because every one of these players are in high dollar positions. Here's your assignment. Rank the first group in order of importance to keep and then the second. You only have 10 seconds to complete the assignment. Please time yourself as we are on the honor system.

Trade them for Bledsoe or cut them all Man that was easy

Maybe we could extend that 10 second time limit for you? And Bledsoe is now working as a statue in a park in Seattle getting sacked by pigeons for holding the seed too long.

I disagree. I have been a fan since 79 when I was 8. I'm 37 now that's 28 years. I can safley say I know my Cowboys better than I know 2 of my 3 Kids. (my daughters) not my son Dallas and can identify most of the roster by body type. The fact that I have NO LIFE outside of the Cowboys or baby Dallas is a big resason why i'm possitive I know more about my team than most experts and probably many people in the orginazation. (it's kinda sad really) That being siad after watching the way the NFL works for all these years and knowing the Cowboys. I can safley say what I said would happen will happen and you could bank on it. It's just the way things work.

CouchCoach:

Triple L Ranch:

CouchCoach:

daddylvsdallas:

I'm sorry but wasn't the whole point of bringing in Hamlin to help on coverage? and move Roy closer to the line? The first part worked great, Hamlin was even better than I had hoped, but what happened to using Roy almost as an extra linabacker? just imagine the Roy in Campo's old system and Demarcus now. Good luck stopping our playmakers, but as much as I love Wade that never happened. And to the guy that suggested Watkins could take over. YOUR JOKING RIGHT? I wouldn't let him start on my nephew's little league team. Much better you move Henry to free and Hamkin to strong instead of that.

Excellent point. I thought that was the main reason we brought Hamlin in unless there was a different plan and doubts were starting to surface about Williams and his work ethic. Which is what we're all talkling about ..weight, conditioning, study, recognition..it's all about work ethic and I think he's always gotten by without it in the past and now has been found out. I think Henry's strength is on the line up against the big WRs and not back in open coverage against speed receivers. If we've got hope since we didn't draft another Safety, I believe it's Courtney Brown. I have heard good things about his ball skills and maybe he can make the jump this year. While he is an unknown, what we know about Williams isn't making anyone comfortable including the coaching staff and owner.

I don't know what to think of Roy's play over the last year, and certainly don't know what to expect from him this upcoming season.  I do, however, know that your statement - "While he is an unknown, what we know about Williams isn't making anyone comfortable including the coaching staff and owner."  is completely wrong!  Check this out.  It contradicts your statement and comes directly from the owner.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=E9B27236-A032-81F6-6C8E419340C85FCF

Trip, I saw that when it came out. What would you expect him to say when asked about it? That he's worried Roy's play has denigrated, he's blaming other players in the secondary, being called in for a coaches meeting, blaming the fans and openly admitted he fears being thrown on? Have you ever heard Jones say anything negative about one of his players? Even when one is convicted of double manslaughter? I'll stand by that statement. Jerry Jones and the coaching staff are very concerned about him. If this had happened prior to the draft, we'd have picked a Safety. As usual, just my opinion but I believe with the door still open to the SB, Jerry is plenty worried about Roy Williams and his performance, or lack thereof.

I agree, the organization is concerned about the intensity of Roy Williams.  Jerry Jones attempts to speak clearly when talking to the media or staff reporters, but one has to read between the lines of his statement.  Jerry is comfortable with Roy Williams.  If taken at face value, you would assume he is content with his level of play.  However, when diagnosing the statement, one arrives at the conclusion that Jerry Jones is comfortable in the fact that he knows Roy's ability and the ablility of his newly hired coaches to get Roy back to original form.  As I said, I don't know what to think of Roy's play this past season, nor do I know what to expect from him this upcoming season.  As a fan, I can only hope to see the old Roy once again this upcoming season.  Anything less will be a huge disappointment.

LOL.  That's pigeon comment is just wrong. Funy as hell, but wrong.

Triple L Ranch:

CouchCoach:

Triple L Ranch:

CouchCoach:

daddylvsdallas:

I'm sorry but wasn't the whole point of bringing in Hamlin to help on coverage? and move Roy closer to the line? The first part worked great, Hamlin was even better than I had hoped, but what happened to using Roy almost as an extra linabacker? just imagine the Roy in Campo's old system and Demarcus now. Good luck stopping our playmakers, but as much as I love Wade that never happened. And to the guy that suggested Watkins could take over. YOUR JOKING RIGHT? I wouldn't let him start on my nephew's little league team. Much better you move Henry to free and Hamkin to strong instead of that.

Excellent point. I thought that was the main reason we brought Hamlin in unless there was a different plan and doubts were starting to surface about Williams and his work ethic. Which is what we're all talkling about ..weight, conditioning, study, recognition..it's all about work ethic and I think he's always gotten by without it in the past and now has been found out. I think Henry's strength is on the line up against the big WRs and not back in open coverage against speed receivers. If we've got hope since we didn't draft another Safety, I believe it's Courtney Brown. I have heard good things about his ball skills and maybe he can make the jump this year. While he is an unknown, what we know about Williams isn't making anyone comfortable including the coaching staff and owner.

I don't know what to think of Roy's play over the last year, and certainly don't know what to expect from him this upcoming season.  I do, however, know that your statement - "While he is an unknown, what we know about Williams isn't making anyone comfortable including the coaching staff and owner."  is completely wrong!  Check this out.  It contradicts your statement and comes directly from the owner.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=E9B27236-A032-81F6-6C8E419340C85FCF

Trip, I saw that when it came out. What would you expect him to say when asked about it? That he's worried Roy's play has denigrated, he's blaming other players in the secondary, being called in for a coaches meeting, blaming the fans and openly admitted he fears being thrown on? Have you ever heard Jones say anything negative about one of his players? Even when one is convicted of double manslaughter? I'll stand by that statement. Jerry Jones and the coaching staff are very concerned about him. If this had happened prior to the draft, we'd have picked a Safety. As usual, just my opinion but I believe with the door still open to the SB, Jerry is plenty worried about Roy Williams and his performance, or lack thereof.

I agree, the organization is concerned about the intensity of Roy Williams.  Jerry Jones attempts to speak clearly when talking to the media or staff reporters, but one has to read between the lines of his statement.  Jerry is comfortable with Roy Williams.  If taken at face value, you would assume he is content with his level of play.  However, when diagnosing the statement, one arrives at the conclusion that Jerry Jones is comfortable in the fact that he knows Roy's ability and the ablility of his newly hired coaches to get Roy back to original form.  As I said, I don't know what to think of Roy's play this past season, nor do I know what to expect from him this upcoming season.  As a fan, I can only hope to see the old Roy once again this upcoming season.  Anything less will be a huge disappointment.

And I believe he hired Maxie just for Roy. He's got a lot of money invested and he's an oil man. More than one of those wildcatters has turned a dry hole into a gusher with just a little more work. Roy was a force once and maybe he can become that again, I certainly hope so because when they targeted him after the packer game and we're 12-1, I thought that was cheap shotting. I also think all of the scrutiny on one player on a 13-4 team is getting to him and he's become overly defensive. Roy needs to immerse himself into the team, not isolate himself from it. Only those players and the coaches know the truth.

rphillips:

Cowboys Pro Bowl safety Roy Williams has been a hot topic over the last few days, starting with Greg Ellis' Sirius Radio comments that his friend and teammate didn't feel comfortable in the team's 3-4 defense.

Williams has since been quoted as saying he's more optimistic about next season after meeting with his defensive coaches. How can the Cowboys make him more effective?

 Roy Williams needs to look Roy Williams in the mirror. And then he needs to ask himself, "Have I done everything possible to improve myself at the game I supposedly love?" All of Dave Campo's coaching advice will be for naught if Roy doesn't practice what he's taught. And then execute it on the field on Sunday. Instead of complaining about the defense, he should be breaking down film and making note of what he did wrong. Personally, I would be embarassed if my coach felt he had to pull me off the field in a crucial situation. Hopefully, he will be like me.

  Doesn't he get tired of getting burned? He should be angry that teams think so little of him. He should be furious that people are calling him overrated. And most of all, he should be downright ornery that Wade Phillips is pulling him off the field in key moments of a game. The big-time players live for those types of moments. He should want to surprise Jeremy Shockey, Chris Cooley, L.J. Smith, Kellen Winslow and Heath Miller by actually staying with them one on one. Surprise the opponents' coaching staff when you intercept their attempts at an "easy touchdown".

 

 I don't think the Cowboy's can make Roy more effective ,  Roy - himself has to make him better.....   But if i were in JJ & WP positions i would tell roy straight up , get your act together or find a nice spot on the bench and relax ,  because thats where your gonna be for the rest of the season and then we are gonna trade your sorry @$$ excuse for a strong safety out of here - one way or another.......

 I for the life of me have no clue what happened to RW to make him so relaxed in the secondary ,  even his hits are lame now , ( lower the shoulder and bump into the guy with the ball ,  fall down and watch the ball carrier gain 10 or more yards after the hit )  or better yet  ( i'll horse collar tackle him and get a couple weeks off...... yea that sounds like the better idea...... )

By not letting him on the field.

rphillips:

Cowboys Pro Bowl safety Roy Williams has been a hot topic over the last few days, starting with Greg Ellis' Sirius Radio comments that his friend and teammate didn't feel comfortable in the team's 3-4 defense.

Williams has since been quoted as saying he's more optimistic about next season after meeting with his defensive coaches. How can the Cowboys make him more effective?

Have him drop some serious weight to improve his quickness. Parcells should've never beefed him up so much. He was doing well before his changes came. He needs to make the ball his number one enemy and intercept it by stopping it before it crosses over the line of scrimmage or take it in mid-air on coverage. He needs to go straight to the waist on tackles and aim for the football strip; straight to the legs; or over the offensive players shoulders and do some serious crushing. No hoarse collars. Get inflamed again R.W. I have your #31. Now make get your #38 jersey.

Williams adresses "critics"

Roy Williams threw out the first pitch at Saturday night's Oklahoma RedHawks game. He also talked to the Oklahoman's Matt Patterson.

Williams shared some of his memories of the "Super Roy" play from the Texas-OU game in 2001. And then he got on to more current matters ...

Fellow defensive back Terence Newman said Williams had a "deer in the headlights" look in coverage last season. If Williams is bothered by it, he isn't letting on.
"I know that people probably mixed his words up," he said. "Terence told me what he said. He said a lot of good things in the first part. The media takes what they want to hear. Me and Terence are boys."

Williams insists his teammates haven't lost faith in him. Sporting an "I am what I am" bracelet on his right wrist, he finds strength in religion.

"Ever since I've rededicated my life to Christ I've caught way more persecution now," he said. "But it's a beautiful thing because I know it's a breakthrough coming for me. I welcome it. What makes me any better than Christ? He was persecuted and I've been persecuted. My teammates know where my heart is. They know where my mind is at."

article found on http://gryphononcowboys.blogspot.com/ 

he needs to be strapped in to a chair and forced to watch tons of film, He has to think too much, even Woody said they dumb'd down the D for him. In order play great you gotta be able to just react, right now roy has to think too much, he's playing slow, like a rook almost the game is too fast for him, so simply you mandate 4hrs of film time per day.

Id say only use him in situational plays.

dont put him in there where hes gonna get burned let him play a lil linebacker