gp_cowpolk:

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CouchCoach:

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Can we get a new topic... like... do we need another reciever, or should we petition to move Hurd to the #2 spot... or something along those lines.

T With....now there is no one left that is worth our time or the risk unless we work a trade with a club for a starter.  Who would we be willing to give up?  I know the #2 WR spot is a hot topic with you and I know how much you dispise PC but I think we have to go with what we have or wait until training camp and pick someone up off waivers if there is someone worth or time or the risk.

 

Can we trade PC? I like your thinking Coach.... hear that everyone, Coach says we are trading Crayton for Johnson... a square trade at that!

T, Coach who? And I thought Keyshawn retired and besides, we already had him once. Square trade, no way. We've got to have Ryan Leaf too or no deal. T, what are you going to do if Crayton does really well this season? One thing we haven't discussed is which of these WRs is the best blocker because I believe that will be the #2 WR's job #1. We have a #1 and #2 receiver and will reverse the run/pass ratio from last year. I haven't watched any of them to even have an opinion on their blocking.

Sorry Coach... when webber posted that, I automatically assumed it was you... but, Crayton is not the guy we want at #2 if that is going to require blocking... he won't get camera time for blocking, so he won't do it... plus, did I mention, he is soft. In prison, he would be someones sissy!

Seriously though... I was just reading Micks article...that guy is a homer... talking about Romo's #s and that he is just a baby in the league yet... and as much as that is true... he also should be the leader of this team. I don't care about other QBs you want to compare to... I care about the Cowboys... and although I am proud of Romos regular season accomplishments... Danny White was the same way... but just couldnt pull the trigger when it counted most. Now, I am not saying that Romo is going to be that guy... but one more 1 and done in the playoffs... then call it what it is.

Yes, we might have a better running game this season... and our D is definately improved... I just don't want to see us put our faith in a schlep like Crayton. I would rather see us try Hurd... or even Glenn with a bum knee.

And if half of you guys are so high on Crayton... couldnt we find value in trading him? If he is that qualified... then other teams would be offering something... but they are not... because they know what he is... a seventh round transitioned player who isnt worth the words that he uses.

TWith it's funny that you feel so strongly about Crayton in a negative sense. But the fact is JJ and the Coaches all love the guy. So your rating of the player is bias. How do you figure he is soft? Like I said many times before go onto "youtube" and watch the Patrick Crayton highlight film. You really have zero basis for your constant complaints. Did it ever occur to you that other Teams aren't showing interest in Crayton because he isn't available? The Cowboys have absoulutely no interest whatsoever in letting Crayton go. You say some of us guys are so high on Crayton. Your damn right he's got great hands and he is a solid reciever not a #1 but again you tell me when he was ever billed as a #1? Some of you guys who are so down on Crayton must know of a special WR bus filled with #1 recievers just waiting for their turn in the league.

T you should be elected president of the beating a dead horse club, we get it you don't like Crayton.  I am not a Crayton fan either, but the sad reality is there just isn't that much better available out there.  I would rather have Crayton then some of the criminal a-holes like Chris Henry, not to mention with how out of wack this pay system is even if someone was available it would break us.  I am not even talking about Johnson or Williams, I am saying if a hump thug, moron like Javon Walker can get 50 some million then anyone can.  Truth is we may have gotten a bargain on Crayton by resigning him before the end of the season.  I agree that we can explore our other recievers ect. and I think we will, but I would be very suprised if we signed anyone new it would just hinder the development of our promising young wideouts.  Now lets move on from this please, everyone has said there piece and there is no point in rehashing it.

I get to be president?

Crayton= pro bowl

Wait for the fireworks. lol you're going to get T and j REALLY mad over that one.... in a rush to respond as quickly as possible, they'll take it way to seriously 

XTheBarbarianX:

gp_cowpolk:

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Original81hof:

Fan since 1975:

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CouchCoach:

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Webber:

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Can we get a new topic... like... do we need another reciever, or should we petition to move Hurd to the #2 spot... or something along those lines.

T With....now there is no one left that is worth our time or the risk unless we work a trade with a club for a starter.  Who would we be willing to give up?  I know the #2 WR spot is a hot topic with you and I know how much you dispise PC but I think we have to go with what we have or wait until training camp and pick someone up off waivers if there is someone worth or time or the risk.

 

Can we trade PC? I like your thinking Coach.... hear that everyone, Coach says we are trading Crayton for Johnson... a square trade at that!

T, Coach who? And I thought Keyshawn retired and besides, we already had him once. Square trade, no way. We've got to have Ryan Leaf too or no deal. T, what are you going to do if Crayton does really well this season? One thing we haven't discussed is which of these WRs is the best blocker because I believe that will be the #2 WR's job #1. We have a #1 and #2 receiver and will reverse the run/pass ratio from last year. I haven't watched any of them to even have an opinion on their blocking.

Sorry Coach... when webber posted that, I automatically assumed it was you... but, Crayton is not the guy we want at #2 if that is going to require blocking... he won't get camera time for blocking, so he won't do it... plus, did I mention, he is soft. In prison, he would be someones sissy!

Seriously though... I was just reading Micks article...that guy is a homer... talking about Romo's #s and that he is just a baby in the league yet... and as much as that is true... he also should be the leader of this team. I don't care about other QBs you want to compare to... I care about the Cowboys... and although I am proud of Romos regular season accomplishments... Danny White was the same way... but just couldnt pull the trigger when it counted most. Now, I am not saying that Romo is going to be that guy... but one more 1 and done in the playoffs... then call it what it is.

Yes, we might have a better running game this season... and our D is definately improved... I just don't want to see us put our faith in a schlep like Crayton. I would rather see us try Hurd... or even Glenn with a bum knee.

And if half of you guys are so high on Crayton... couldnt we find value in trading him? If he is that qualified... then other teams would be offering something... but they are not... because they know what he is... a seventh round transitioned player who isnt worth the words that he uses.

TWith it's funny that you feel so strongly about Crayton in a negative sense. But the fact is JJ and the Coaches all love the guy. So your rating of the player is bias. How do you figure he is soft? Like I said many times before go onto "youtube" and watch the Patrick Crayton highlight film. You really have zero basis for your constant complaints. Did it ever occur to you that other Teams aren't showing interest in Crayton because he isn't available? The Cowboys have absoulutely no interest whatsoever in letting Crayton go. You say some of us guys are so high on Crayton. Your damn right he's got great hands and he is a solid reciever not a #1 but again you tell me when he was ever billed as a #1? Some of you guys who are so down on Crayton must know of a special WR bus filled with #1 recievers just waiting for their turn in the league.

T you should be elected president of the beating a dead horse club, we get it you don't like Crayton.  I am not a Crayton fan either, but the sad reality is there just isn't that much better available out there.  I would rather have Crayton then some of the criminal a-holes like Chris Henry, not to mention with how out of wack this pay system is even if someone was available it would break us.  I am not even talking about Johnson or Williams, I am saying if a hump thug, moron like Javon Walker can get 50 some million then anyone can.  Truth is we may have gotten a bargain on Crayton by resigning him before the end of the season.  I agree that we can explore our other recievers ect. and I think we will, but I would be very suprised if we signed anyone new it would just hinder the development of our promising young wideouts.  Now lets move on from this please, everyone has said there piece and there is no point in rehashing it.

I get to be president?

Crayton= pro bowl

 

Wait for the fireworks. lol you're going to get T and j REALLY mad over that one.... in a rush to respond as quickly as possible, they'll take it way to seriously 

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XTheBarbarianX:

gp_cowpolk:

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Original81hof:

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CouchCoach:

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Webber:

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Can we get a new topic... like... do we need another reciever, or should we petition to move Hurd to the #2 spot... or something along those lines.

T With....now there is no one left that is worth our time or the risk unless we work a trade with a club for a starter.  Who would we be willing to give up?  I know the #2 WR spot is a hot topic with you and I know how much you dispise PC but I think we have to go with what we have or wait until training camp and pick someone up off waivers if there is someone worth or time or the risk.

 

Can we trade PC? I like your thinking Coach.... hear that everyone, Coach says we are trading Crayton for Johnson... a square trade at that!

T, Coach who? And I thought Keyshawn retired and besides, we already had him once. Square trade, no way. We've got to have Ryan Leaf too or no deal. T, what are you going to do if Crayton does really well this season? One thing we haven't discussed is which of these WRs is the best blocker because I believe that will be the #2 WR's job #1. We have a #1 and #2 receiver and will reverse the run/pass ratio from last year. I haven't watched any of them to even have an opinion on their blocking.

Sorry Coach... when webber posted that, I automatically assumed it was you... but, Crayton is not the guy we want at #2 if that is going to require blocking... he won't get camera time for blocking, so he won't do it... plus, did I mention, he is soft. In prison, he would be someones sissy!

Seriously though... I was just reading Micks article...that guy is a homer... talking about Romo's #s and that he is just a baby in the league yet... and as much as that is true... he also should be the leader of this team. I don't care about other QBs you want to compare to... I care about the Cowboys... and although I am proud of Romos regular season accomplishments... Danny White was the same way... but just couldnt pull the trigger when it counted most. Now, I am not saying that Romo is going to be that guy... but one more 1 and done in the playoffs... then call it what it is.

Yes, we might have a better running game this season... and our D is definately improved... I just don't want to see us put our faith in a schlep like Crayton. I would rather see us try Hurd... or even Glenn with a bum knee.

And if half of you guys are so high on Crayton... couldnt we find value in trading him? If he is that qualified... then other teams would be offering something... but they are not... because they know what he is... a seventh round transitioned player who isnt worth the words that he uses.

TWith it's funny that you feel so strongly about Crayton in a negative sense. But the fact is JJ and the Coaches all love the guy. So your rating of the player is bias. How do you figure he is soft? Like I said many times before go onto "youtube" and watch the Patrick Crayton highlight film. You really have zero basis for your constant complaints. Did it ever occur to you that other Teams aren't showing interest in Crayton because he isn't available? The Cowboys have absoulutely no interest whatsoever in letting Crayton go. You say some of us guys are so high on Crayton. Your damn right he's got great hands and he is a solid reciever not a #1 but again you tell me when he was ever billed as a #1? Some of you guys who are so down on Crayton must know of a special WR bus filled with #1 recievers just waiting for their turn in the league.

T you should be elected president of the beating a dead horse club, we get it you don't like Crayton.  I am not a Crayton fan either, but the sad reality is there just isn't that much better available out there.  I would rather have Crayton then some of the criminal a-holes like Chris Henry, not to mention with how out of wack this pay system is even if someone was available it would break us.  I am not even talking about Johnson or Williams, I am saying if a hump thug, moron like Javon Walker can get 50 some million then anyone can.  Truth is we may have gotten a bargain on Crayton by resigning him before the end of the season.  I agree that we can explore our other recievers ect. and I think we will, but I would be very suprised if we signed anyone new it would just hinder the development of our promising young wideouts.  Now lets move on from this please, everyone has said there piece and there is no point in rehashing it.

I get to be president?

Crayton= pro bowl

 

Wait for the fireworks. lol you're going to get T and j REALLY mad over that one.... in a rush to respond as quickly as possible, they'll take it way to seriously 

Nah.... that one actually made me laugh harder than Coach usually does. I would be willing to wager 5gs on that Never happening. I wonder if Vegas has a line on that one?

Fixed it for you. 

XTheBarbarianX:

T with:

XTheBarbarianX:

gp_cowpolk:

T with:

Original81hof:

Fan since 1975:

T with:

CouchCoach:

T with:

Webber:

T with:

Can we get a new topic... like... do we need another reciever, or should we petition to move Hurd to the #2 spot... or something along those lines.

T With....now there is no one left that is worth our time or the risk unless we work a trade with a club for a starter.  Who would we be willing to give up?  I know the #2 WR spot is a hot topic with you and I know how much you dispise PC but I think we have to go with what we have or wait until training camp and pick someone up off waivers if there is someone worth or time or the risk.

 

Can we trade PC? I like your thinking Coach.... hear that everyone, Coach says we are trading Crayton for Johnson... a square trade at that!

T, Coach who? And I thought Keyshawn retired and besides, we already had him once. Square trade, no way. We've got to have Ryan Leaf too or no deal. T, what are you going to do if Crayton does really well this season? One thing we haven't discussed is which of these WRs is the best blocker because I believe that will be the #2 WR's job #1. We have a #1 and #2 receiver and will reverse the run/pass ratio from last year. I haven't watched any of them to even have an opinion on their blocking.

Sorry Coach... when webber posted that, I automatically assumed it was you... but, Crayton is not the guy we want at #2 if that is going to require blocking... he won't get camera time for blocking, so he won't do it... plus, did I mention, he is soft. In prison, he would be someones sissy!

Seriously though... I was just reading Micks article...that guy is a homer... talking about Romo's #s and that he is just a baby in the league yet... and as much as that is true... he also should be the leader of this team. I don't care about other QBs you want to compare to... I care about the Cowboys... and although I am proud of Romos regular season accomplishments... Danny White was the same way... but just couldnt pull the trigger when it counted most. Now, I am not saying that Romo is going to be that guy... but one more 1 and done in the playoffs... then call it what it is.

Yes, we might have a better running game this season... and our D is definately improved... I just don't want to see us put our faith in a schlep like Crayton. I would rather see us try Hurd... or even Glenn with a bum knee.

And if half of you guys are so high on Crayton... couldnt we find value in trading him? If he is that qualified... then other teams would be offering something... but they are not... because they know what he is... a seventh round transitioned player who isnt worth the words that he uses.

TWith it's funny that you feel so strongly about Crayton in a negative sense. But the fact is JJ and the Coaches all love the guy. So your rating of the player is bias. How do you figure he is soft? Like I said many times before go onto "youtube" and watch the Patrick Crayton highlight film. You really have zero basis for your constant complaints. Did it ever occur to you that other Teams aren't showing interest in Crayton because he isn't available? The Cowboys have absoulutely no interest whatsoever in letting Crayton go. You say some of us guys are so high on Crayton. Your damn right he's got great hands and he is a solid reciever not a #1 but again you tell me when he was ever billed as a #1? Some of you guys who are so down on Crayton must know of a special WR bus filled with #1 recievers just waiting for their turn in the league.

T you should be elected president of the beating a dead horse club, we get it you don't like Crayton.  I am not a Crayton fan either, but the sad reality is there just isn't that much better available out there.  I would rather have Crayton then some of the criminal a-holes like Chris Henry, not to mention with how out of wack this pay system is even if someone was available it would break us.  I am not even talking about Johnson or Williams, I am saying if a hump thug, moron like Javon Walker can get 50 some million then anyone can.  Truth is we may have gotten a bargain on Crayton by resigning him before the end of the season.  I agree that we can explore our other recievers ect. and I think we will, but I would be very suprised if we signed anyone new it would just hinder the development of our promising young wideouts.  Now lets move on from this please, everyone has said there piece and there is no point in rehashing it.

I get to be president?

Crayton= pro bowl

 

Wait for the fireworks. lol you're going to get T and j REALLY mad over that one.... in a rush to respond as quickly as possible, they'll take it way to seriously 

Nah.... that one actually made me laugh harder than Coach usually does. I would be willing to wager 5gs on that Never happening. I wonder if Vegas has a line on that one?

Fixed it for you. 

Terry Glenn has an attitude problem. He is not working to make the "Boys" better, he simply wants to get as much money guanranteed should he not be able to play this year.

Why does everyone hate Crayton? He was solid all year long. He made so many big time plays and blocks for us throughout the year. I see it this way: Romo screwed up in the playoff game vs seattle, Crayton screwed up in the playoff game vs Giants. I didnt jump on the get rid of Romo bandwagon, so theres no way I would jump on the get rid of Crayton bandwagon. Crayton is a solid number two reciever, he just doesnt make headlines. The only time he did something I disapproved of was when he said the cowboys needed to pee on the giants to mark their territory, although in hinesight that was pretty funny.

D-Rivs832:

Why does everyone hate Crayton? He was solid all year long. He made so many big time plays and blocks for us throughout the year. I see it this way: Romo screwed up in the playoff game vs seattle, Crayton screwed up in the playoff game vs Giants. I didnt jump on the get rid of Romo bandwagon, so theres no way I would jump on the get rid of Crayton bandwagon. Crayton is a solid number two reciever, he just doesnt make headlines. The only time he did something I disapproved of was when he said the cowboys needed to pee on the giants to mark their territory, although in hinesight that was pretty funny.

gp_cowpolk:

D-Rivs832:

Why does everyone hate Crayton? He was solid all year long. He made so many big time plays and blocks for us throughout the year. I see it this way: Romo screwed up in the playoff game vs seattle, Crayton screwed up in the playoff game vs Giants. I didnt jump on the get rid of Romo bandwagon, so theres no way I would jump on the get rid of Crayton bandwagon. Crayton is a solid number two reciever, he just doesnt make headlines. The only time he did something I disapproved of was when he said the cowboys needed to pee on the giants to mark their territory, although in hinesight that was pretty funny.

Can't figger that out either. Crayton will prove himself And the haters will sing praise to him.

I have to agree here. Crayton screws up on ONE play and he is getting dogged? I don't understand this rational. Crayton is a solid #2 WR (on this team). He can easily be a starter for several other teams out there.

RfaHoss:

Terry Glenn has an attitude problem. He is not working to make the "Boys" better, he simply wants to get as much money guanranteed should he not be able to play this year.

Can you blame him?  All I want from him, is to make up his mind, so we can move along with him or without him.

gmo415:

gp_cowpolk:

D-Rivs832:

Why does everyone hate Crayton? He was solid all year long. He made so many big time plays and blocks for us throughout the year. I see it this way: Romo screwed up in the playoff game vs seattle, Crayton screwed up in the playoff game vs Giants. I didnt jump on the get rid of Romo bandwagon, so theres no way I would jump on the get rid of Crayton bandwagon. Crayton is a solid number two reciever, he just doesnt make headlines. The only time he did something I disapproved of was when he said the cowboys needed to pee on the giants to mark their territory, although in hinesight that was pretty funny.

Can't figger that out either. Crayton will prove himself And the haters will sing praise to him.

I have to agree here. Crayton screws up on ONE play and he is getting dogged? I don't understand this rational. Crayton is a solid #2 WR (on this team). He can easily be a starter for several other teams out there.

In terms of production or yards anyway, Patrick Crayton was 51st and tied with Dante Stallworth. Stallworth was the best WR for the Eagles before they let him go. Now, one could argue that Stallworth was the 3rd option at WR, but Crayton was also considering Witten was Romo's main target. Plus, with the Patriots running a spread offense, they probably both saw the field an almost equal amount of time. Further, being 51st in recieving yards means by average, there are 13 teams that he could start for(32 teams with 2 starters = 64 total starters). Considering some teams have two recievers ahead of him like the Patriots, Bengals, etc., there are obviously more that 13 teams in which he could start on.

He's about middle of the road in terms of a #2 option at WR.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=F665D5BDB19D656A1A777F76A218ED54?archive=false&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&experience=null&d-447263-n=1&season=2007&Submit=Find&qualified=true&tabSeq=0&d-447263-p=2

Lord Nate:

gmo415:

gp_cowpolk:

D-Rivs832:

Why does everyone hate Crayton? He was solid all year long. He made so many big time plays and blocks for us throughout the year. I see it this way: Romo screwed up in the playoff game vs seattle, Crayton screwed up in the playoff game vs Giants. I didnt jump on the get rid of Romo bandwagon, so theres no way I would jump on the get rid of Crayton bandwagon. Crayton is a solid number two reciever, he just doesnt make headlines. The only time he did something I disapproved of was when he said the cowboys needed to pee on the giants to mark their territory, although in hinesight that was pretty funny.

Can't figger that out either. Crayton will prove himself And the haters will sing praise to him.

I have to agree here. Crayton screws up on ONE play and he is getting dogged? I don't understand this rational. Crayton is a solid #2 WR (on this team). He can easily be a starter for several other teams out there.

In terms of production or yards anyway, Patrick Crayton was 51st and tied with Dante Stallworth. Stallworth was the best WR for the Eagles before they let him go. Now, one could argue that Stallworth was the 3rd option at WR, but Crayton was also considering Witten was Romo's main target. Plus, with the Patriots running a spread offense, they probably both saw the field an almost equal amount of time. Further, being 51st in recieving yards means by average, there are 13 teams that he could start for(32 teams with 2 starters = 64 total starters). Considering some teams have two recievers ahead of him like the Patriots, Bengals, etc., there are obviously more that 13 teams in which he could start on.

He's about middle of the road in terms of a #2 option at WR.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=F665D5BDB19D656A1A777F76A218ED54?archive=false&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&experience=null&d-447263-n=1&season=2007&Submit=Find&qualified=true&tabSeq=0&d-447263-p=2

That, my good man, is a very good assesment.  

gmo415:

gp_cowpolk:

D-Rivs832:

Why does everyone hate Crayton? He was solid all year long. He made so many big time plays and blocks for us throughout the year. I see it this way: Romo screwed up in the playoff game vs seattle, Crayton screwed up in the playoff game vs Giants. I didnt jump on the get rid of Romo bandwagon, so theres no way I would jump on the get rid of Crayton bandwagon. Crayton is a solid number two reciever, he just doesnt make headlines. The only time he did something I disapproved of was when he said the cowboys needed to pee on the giants to mark their territory, although in hinesight that was pretty funny.

Can't figger that out either. Crayton will prove himself And the haters will sing praise to him.

I have to agree here. Crayton screws up on ONE play and he is getting dogged? I don't understand this rational. Crayton is a solid #2 WR (on this team). He can easily be a starter for several other teams out there.

gmo, from what I can make out,Twith hates him because he thinks with an all-pro wr on the other side and an all-pro tight end, Crayton should be getting open all day long and have at least 1000 yards, and he's soft, and slow.  

Lord Nate:

Crayton screws up on ONE play and he is getting dogged?

XTheBarbarianX:

he's soft, and slow.  

jcowboy:

XTheBarbarianX:

he's soft, and slow.  

Now yer getting it!!!!