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  • 05-22-2008 12:09 PM

    Indiana Jones 4

    What happend, Steven Spielberg? Animal planet documentaries, unexplained massive waterfall survival, strange lines, poor editing, and very odd choice of direction in the main plot....as far as I'm concerned, the franchise stopped with the 3rd one.

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  • 05-22-2008 12:31 PM In reply to

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    Didn't it just open a few hours ago? What, were you waiting in line?

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  • 05-22-2008 1:53 PM In reply to

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    He went to the midnight showing.  I was fearing a bad movie.  Damn.  I loved 1-3 too.  I still see it anyway but...damn...

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  • 05-22-2008 2:05 PM In reply to

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    They were cool movies. But I don't think I could get into a 65 year old Indiana Jones. Almost as absurd as a 65 year old Rambo.

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  • 05-22-2008 2:20 PM In reply to

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    It's George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, there's almost no way those two got together to make a bad movie. 

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  • 05-22-2008 2:50 PM In reply to

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    Weapon_X:

    It's George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, there's almost no way those two got together to make a bad movie. 

    Without getting into a big Star Wars debate I could have done a better job with doing Ep. 7-9 INSTEAD of Ep. 1-3.   IMHO Lucas of the year 2000 hasn't been all that great for Star Wars...

     

    So I am not surprised that IJ 4 isn't living up to the hype.  I still think a 65 year old Harrison Ford can pull Indy off just like I think a 65 year old Harrison Ford could pull of Han Solo..

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  • 05-22-2008 3:07 PM In reply to

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    They're passing the torch to Shia LeBeouf who is Indy Jr and I would imagine will be the main character in 5 and 6. 

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  • 05-22-2008 3:08 PM In reply to

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    "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull." Say it aloud. The very title causes the pulse to quicken, if you, like me, are a lover of pulp fiction. What I want is goofy action--lots of it. I want man-eating ants, swordfights between two people balanced on the backs of speeding jeeps, subterranean caverns of gold, vicious femme fatales, plunges down three waterfalls in a row, and the explanation for flying saucers. And throw in lots of monkeys.

    The Indiana Jones movies were directed by Steven Spielberg and written
    by George Lucas and a small army of screenwriters, but they exist in a
    universe of their own. Hell, they created it. All you can do is compare one to the other three. And even then, what will it get you? If you eat four pounds of sausage, how do you choose which pound tasted the best? Well, the first one, of course, and then there's a steady drop-off of interest. That's why no Indy adventure can match "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (1981). But if "Crystal Skull" (or "Temple of Doom" from 1984 or "Last Crusade" from, 1989) had come first in the series, who knows how much fresher it might have seemed? True, "Raiders of the Lost Ark" stands alone as an action masterpiece, but after that the series is compelled to be, in the words of Indiana himself, "same old same old." Yes, but that's what I want it to be.

    "Crystal Skull" even dusts off the Russians, so severely under- exploited in recent years, as the bad guys. Up against them, Indiana Jones is once again played by Harrison Ford, who is now 65 but looks a lot like he did at 55 or 46, which is how old he was when he made "Last Crusade." He has one of those Robert Mitchum faces that doesn't age, it only frowns more. He and his sidekick Mac McHale (Ray Winstone) are taken by the cool, contemptuous Soviet uber-villainess Irina Spalko (Cate Blanchett) to a cavernous warehouse to seek out a crate he saw there years ago. The contents of the crate are hyper- magnetic (lord, I love this stuff) and betray themselves when Indy throws a handful of gunpowder into the air.

    In ways too labyrinthine to describe, the crate leads Indy, Mac, Irina and the Russians far up the Amazon. Along the way they've gathered Marion Ravenwood (Karen Allen), Indy's girlfriend from the first film, and a young biker named Mutt Williams (Shia LeBeouf), who is always combing his ducktail haircut. They also acquire Professor Oxley (John Hurt), elderly colleague from the University of Chicago, whose function is to read all the necessary languages, know all the necessary background, and explain everything.

    What happens in South America is explained by the need to create (1) sensational chase sequences, and (2) awe-inspiring spectacles. We get such sights as two dueling Jeep-like vehicles racing down parallel roads. Not many of the audience members will be as logical as I am, and wonder who went to the trouble of building parallell roads in a rain forest. Most of the major characters eventually find themselves at the wheels of both vehicles; they leap or are thrown from one to another, and the vehicles occasionally leap right over one another. And that Irina, she's something. Her Russian backups are mostly just atmosphere, useful for pointing their rifles at Indy, but she can fight shoot, fence, drive, leap and kick, and keep on all night.

    All leads to the discovery of a subterranean chamber beneath an ancient Pyramid, where they find an ancient city made of gold and containing...but wait, I forgot to tell you they found a crystal skull in a crypt. Well sir, it's one of 13 crystal skulls, and the other 12 are in that chamber. When the set is complete, amazing events take place. Prof. Oxley carries the 13th skull for most of the time, and finds it repels man-eating ants. It also represents one-thirteenth of all knowledge about everything, leading Irina to utter the orgasmic words, "I want...to know!" In appearance, the skull is a cross between the aliens of the Special Edition of Spielberg's "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and the hood ornaments of 1950s Pontiacs.

    What is the function of the chamber? "It's a portal--to another dimension!" Oxley says. Indy is sensible: "I don't think we wanna go that way." It is astonishing that the protagonists aren't all killed 20 or 30 times, although Irnia will beome The Women Who Knew Too Much. At his advanced age, Prof.Oxley tirelessly jumps between vehicles, survives fire and flood and falling from great heights, and would win on "American Gladiator." Relationships between certain other characters are of interest, since (a) the odds against them finding themselves together are astronomical, and (b) the odds against them not finding themselves together in this film are incalculable.

    Now what else can I tell you, apart from mentioning the blinking red digital countdown, and the moving red line tracing a journey on a map? I can say that if you liked the other Indiana Jones movies, you will like this one, and that if you did not, there is no talking to you. And I can also say that a critic trying to place it into a heirarchy with the others would probably keep a straight face while recommending the second pound of sausage.

    "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is in the Great Movies Collection at rogerebert.com

    I'll take the word of Roger Ebert over one of the more negative posters on this forum. 

     

     

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  • 05-22-2008 4:36 PM In reply to

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    Weapon_X:
    And that Irina, she's something. Her Russian backups are mostly just atmosphere, useful for pointing their rifles at Indy, but she can fight shoot, fence, drive, leap and kick, and keep on all night.

    What can Cate B keep on all night?
    Embarrassed

    OK, so Ebert has me feeling better about the movie...




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  • 05-22-2008 8:12 PM In reply to

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    I'm watching no matter what I hear about it.  I tend to be very forgiving when it comes to the type of movie I like.  I'm also a big Harrison Ford fan so that's all I need.

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  • 05-22-2008 9:57 PM In reply to

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    Most ridiculous line of the movie: 

    "Did they go into...into space?"

    "More like the space between spaces..."

     

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  • 05-22-2008 9:59 PM In reply to

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    chetos:

    He went to the midnight showing.  I was fearing a bad movie.  Damn.  I loved 1-3 too.  I still see it anyway but...damn...

     

    Hey, I'm sure plenty of you guys will love it. I mean, I've seen people one here who would rather watch Spiderman 3 than There Will Be Blood, so maybe it's just my taste. But I just thought it was...too...ridiculous at times. Not horrible, but it just got silly at times. 

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  • 05-25-2008 10:47 PM In reply to

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    went and saw it tonight. i liked it for what it was, the ending was a little different then i thought it would be, but it was entertaining. love Harrison Ford, and for that reason alone i wanted to see it. hehehe. grew up on the earlier trilogy as well as SW. jsut about everything hes been in ive liked. Smile

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  • 05-26-2008 12:21 AM In reply to

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    ya, it's just fun.  If you go into it expecting reality, well, you probably opted out on the 1st movie, anyhow.  My wife and I enjoyed it more than any movie in quite a while.  Of course it's just fantasy, but hey, it says Lucas right on the movie poster, so you are warned up front.  Unless, of course, you believe Star Wars is real Stick out tongue 

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  • 05-26-2008 11:45 AM In reply to

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    lancer81:

    ya, it's just fun.  If you go into it expecting reality, well, you probably opted out on the 1st movie, anyhow.  My wife and I enjoyed it more than any movie in quite a while.  Of course it's just fantasy, but hey, it says Lucas right on the movie poster, so you are warned up front.  Unless, of course, you believe Star Wars is real Stick out tongue 

    LOL exactly. its just for fun. all of the Indy movies are fun.
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